Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show

Polygamy & the Utah Attorney General What follows is a very interesting discussion I had a couple of years ago on the topic of modern polygamy in Utah with my guest was Mark Shurtleff, the Utah State Attorney General. Unfortunately, the digital recording failed and this comes from a rather poor tape recording made by one of my listeners. But, because of the topic's timeliness, I am posting this episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show to my podcast site. A.G. Shurtleff gives considerable information and insight into events which currently are widely discussed daily in the national news media regarding the recent raid by Texas law inforcement agents of the polygamous community known as the FLDS, or the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. More than 400 children were taken from their homes and families and placed in State custody. What will be their future and how Texas, Utah and other states will deal with polygamy and other forms of non-traditional illegal sexual relationships has captured the interest of Americans. Attorney General Mark Shurtleff and I were joined by callers in the discussion of: Modern polygamy in Utah; Utah laws regarding sexuality; Various definitions of statutory rape; Legal age for sexual activity; Legal age and conditions for marriage; The impossibility of aggressive prosecution of infractions by polygamists for religious reasons and those who break the laws, but without religious motivation; The issue of First Amendment guarantee of religious freedom verses the anti-polygamy laws; Which laws the State will enforce and which it will not; Differences among polygamists - independents and those in polygamous religious groups; The hypocritical public attitude toward polygamy in contrast to that of children who are the result of irresponsible promiscuity; The prospects of anti-polygamy laws being argued before the Supreme Court; The 90 page Polygamy Primer prepared by the Attorney General's office to clarify issues pertaining to modern polygamy in Utah; Warren Jeffs' abuses Warren Jeffs' distortions of polygamy as practiced by LDS Church members in the 19th century; Welfare fraud; Incest; Women desiring to leave polygamy.   Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 20 August 2006 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 28th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below.

Polygamy & the Utah Attorney General What follows is a very interesting discussion I had a couple of years ago on the topic of modern polygamy in Utah with my guest was Mark Shurtleff, the Utah State Attorney General. Unfortunately, the digital recording failed and this comes from a rather poor tape recording made by one of my listeners. But, because of the topic's timeliness, I am posting this episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show to my podcast site. A.G. Shurtleff gives considerable information and insight into events which currently are widely discussed daily in the national news media regarding the recent raid by Texas law inforcement agents of the polygamous community known as the FLDS, or the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. More than 400 children were taken from their homes and families and placed in State custody. What will be their future and how Texas, Utah and other states will deal with polygamy and other forms of non-traditional illegal sexual relationships has captured the interest of Americans. Attorney General Mark Shurtleff and I were joined by callers in the discussion of: Modern polygamy in Utah; Utah laws regarding sexuality; Various definitions of statutory rape; Legal age for sexual activity; Legal age and conditions for marriage; The impossibility of aggressive prosecution of infractions by polygamists for religious reasons and those who break the laws, but without religious motivation; The issue of First Amendment guarantee of religious freedom verses the anti-polygamy laws; Which laws the State will enforce and which it will not; Differences among polygamists - independents and those in polygamous religious groups; The hypocritical public attitude toward polygamy in contrast to that of children who are the result of irresponsible promiscuity; The prospects of anti-polygamy laws being argued before the Supreme Court; The 90 page Polygamy Primer prepared by the Attorney General's office to clarify issues pertaining to modern polygamy in Utah; Warren Jeffs' abuses Warren Jeffs' distortions of polygamy as practiced by LDS Church members in the 19th century; Welfare fraud; Incest; Women desiring to leave polygamy.   Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 20 August 2006 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 28th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below.

Polygamy & the Utah Attorney General What follows is a very interesting discussion I had a couple of years ago on the topic of modern polygamy in Utah with my guest was Mark Shurtleff, the Utah State Attorney General. Unfortunately, the digital recording failed and this comes from a rather poor tape recording made by one of my listeners. But, because of the topic's timeliness, I am posting this episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show to my podcast site. A.G. Shurtleff gives considerable information and insight into events which currently are widely discussed daily in the national news media regarding the recent raid by Texas law inforcement agents of the polygamous community known as the FLDS, or the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. More than 400 children were taken from their homes and families and placed in State custody. What will be their future and how Texas, Utah and other states will deal with polygamy and other forms of non-traditional illegal sexual relationships has captured the interest of Americans. Attorney General Mark Shurtleff and I were joined by callers in the discussion of: Modern polygamy in Utah; Utah laws regarding sexuality; Various definitions of statutory rape; Legal age for sexual activity; Legal age and conditions for marriage; The impossibility of aggressive prosecution of infractions by polygamists for religious reasons and those who break the laws, but without religious motivation; The issue of First Amendment guarantee of religious freedom verses the anti-polygamy laws; Which laws the State will enforce and which it will not; Differences among polygamists - independents and those in polygamous religious groups; The hypocritical public attitude toward polygamy in contrast to that of children who are the result of irresponsible promiscuity; The prospects of anti-polygamy laws being argued before the Supreme Court; The 90 page Polygamy Primer prepared by the Attorney General's office to clarify issues pertaining to modern polygamy in Utah; Warren Jeffs' abuses Warren Jeffs' distortions of polygamy as practiced by LDS Church members in the 19th century; Welfare fraud; Incest; Women desiring to leave polygamy.   Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 20 August 2006 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 28th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below.

Which Bible? The question, Which Bible should we read? is a question many have never considered - many who insist that the Bible is God's complete, final and infallible word. The fact is that a consensus has never been reached even among mainstream Christianity as to which of the many, many Bibles of Christianity today and throughout Christian history is THE Bible. The history of the Bible is very complex. The following is but a very small list of aspects related to its history: Scrolls, manuscripts, texts, codex, collections, councils, creeds, disputed books, apocrypha, pseudepigrapha, canonization, translations, Septuagint, Law/Prophets/Writings, Samitaritan Penteuch, Latin Vulgate, Masoretic text, Textus Receptus, Marcion, Jerome, Wycliffe, Tyndale, Luther, theological motivations, Dead Sea Scrolls, Nag Hammadi, lost scripture, ancient translations, modern translations, textual criticism. I briefly discuss a number of topics from this list and give some of my personal reflections and conclusions drawn from many years of personal interest in the question, Which Bible? Callers and Email Discussion of: Joseph Smith's last Conference sermon: reports of the sermon, compiling, editing and preparation for publication Literal interpretation of Genesis Brigham Young's view of the Genesis account of creation Adam God Theory Evolution Jehovah in the Old Testament   Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 20 January 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 28th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below.  

Which Bible? The question, Which Bible should we read? is a question many have never considered - many who insist that the Bible is God's complete, final and infallible word. The fact is that a consensus has never been reached even among mainstream Christianity as to which of the many, many Bibles of Christianity today and throughout Christian history is THE Bible. The history of the Bible is very complex. The following is but a very small list of aspects related to its history: Scrolls, manuscripts, texts, codex, collections, councils, creeds, disputed books, apocrypha, pseudepigrapha, canonization, translations, Septuagint, Law/Prophets/Writings, Samitaritan Penteuch, Latin Vulgate, Masoretic text, Textus Receptus, Marcion, Jerome, Wycliffe, Tyndale, Luther, theological motivations, Dead Sea Scrolls, Nag Hammadi, lost scripture, ancient translations, modern translations, textual criticism. I briefly discuss a number of topics from this list and give some of my personal reflections and conclusions drawn from many years of personal interest in the question, Which Bible? Callers and Email Discussion of: Joseph Smith's last Conference sermon: reports of the sermon, compiling, editing and preparation for publication Literal interpretation of Genesis Brigham Young's view of the Genesis account of creation Adam God Theory Evolution Jehovah in the Old Testament   Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 20 January 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 28th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below.  

Which Bible? The question, Which Bible should we read? is a question many have never considered - many who insist that the Bible is God's complete, final and infallible word. The fact is that a consensus has never been reached even among mainstream Christianity as to which of the many, many Bibles of Christianity today and throughout Christian history is THE Bible. The history of the Bible is very complex. The following is but a very small list of aspects related to its history: Scrolls, manuscripts, texts, codex, collections, councils, creeds, disputed books, apocrypha, pseudepigrapha, canonization, translations, Septuagint, Law/Prophets/Writings, Samitaritan Penteuch, Latin Vulgate, Masoretic text, Textus Receptus, Marcion, Jerome, Wycliffe, Tyndale, Luther, theological motivations, Dead Sea Scrolls, Nag Hammadi, lost scripture, ancient translations, modern translations, textual criticism. I briefly discuss a number of topics from this list and give some of my personal reflections and conclusions drawn from many years of personal interest in the question, Which Bible? Callers and Email Discussion of: Joseph Smith's last Conference sermon: reports of the sermon, compiling, editing and preparation for publication Literal interpretation of Genesis Brigham Young's view of the Genesis account of creation Adam God Theory Evolution Jehovah in the Old Testament   Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 20 January 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 28th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below.  

Was Joseph Smith a Prophet? My guest was Martin Tanner. We discussed his debate with Jason Wallace, a pastor who subscribes to the brand of Christianity of John Calvin. Pastor Wallace was arguing that Joseph Smith was not a prophet, presenting his interpretations of some Biblical passages in support. Martin Tanner, who is a believing LDS, responded. Callers participated in our discussion.   Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 20 January 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 28th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below.  

Was Joseph Smith a Prophet? My guest was Martin Tanner. We discussed his debate with Jason Wallace, a pastor who subscribes to the brand of Christianity of John Calvin. Pastor Wallace was arguing that Joseph Smith was not a prophet, presenting his interpretations of some Biblical passages in support. Martin Tanner, who is a believing LDS, responded. Callers participated in our discussion.   Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 20 January 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 28th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below.  

Was Joseph Smith a Prophet? My guest was Martin Tanner. We discussed his debate with Jason Wallace, a pastor who subscribes to the brand of Christianity of John Calvin. Pastor Wallace was arguing that Joseph Smith was not a prophet, presenting his interpretations of some Biblical passages in support. Martin Tanner, who is a believing LDS, responded. Callers participated in our discussion.   Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 20 January 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 28th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below.  

Rethinking the Old Testament I discuss a number of points from my study of the Old Testament which have contributed to the formulation of my conclusions regarding what it means to me and my religious tradition.The Old Testament is not a book of history. It is not a book of Science. Genesis 30 - the speckled and spotted sheep and goats. Extreme Views of the Old Testament It is entirely, word-for-word, God's word. I find this unbelievable for many reasons. Joseph Smith explained that some of the Old Testament pertains to us, but much does not. There has never been anything like universal consensus as to the list of books which belong in the Old Testament. It has never been settled and appears that it never will be. Discussion with callers on what to believe regarding supernatural claims in the Old Testament and elsewhere in our religious tradition, addressing some specifics such as the Book of Abraham, Book of Mormon and the miracles of Jesus. Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 20 January 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 28th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below.

Rethinking the Old Testament I discuss a number of points from my study of the Old Testament which have contributed to the formulation of my conclusions regarding what it means to me and my religious tradition.The Old Testament is not a book of history. It is not a book of Science. Genesis 30 - the speckled and spotted sheep and goats. Extreme Views of the Old Testament It is entirely, word-for-word, God's word. I find this unbelievable for many reasons. Joseph Smith explained that some of the Old Testament pertains to us, but much does not. There has never been anything like universal consensus as to the list of books which belong in the Old Testament. It has never been settled and appears that it never will be. Discussion with callers on what to believe regarding supernatural claims in the Old Testament and elsewhere in our religious tradition, addressing some specifics such as the Book of Abraham, Book of Mormon and the miracles of Jesus. Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 20 January 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 28th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below.

Rethinking the Old Testament I discuss a number of points from my study of the Old Testament which have contributed to the formulation of my conclusions regarding what it means to me and my religious tradition.The Old Testament is not a book of history. It is not a book of Science. Genesis 30 - the speckled and spotted sheep and goats. Extreme Views of the Old Testament It is entirely, word-for-word, God's word. I find this unbelievable for many reasons. Joseph Smith explained that some of the Old Testament pertains to us, but much does not. There has never been anything like universal consensus as to the list of books which belong in the Old Testament. It has never been settled and appears that it never will be. Discussion with callers on what to believe regarding supernatural claims in the Old Testament and elsewhere in our religious tradition, addressing some specifics such as the Book of Abraham, Book of Mormon and the miracles of Jesus. Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 20 January 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 28th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below.

Rethinking the Old Testament I discuss a number of points from my study of the Old Testament which have contributed to the formulation of my conclusions regarding what it means to me and my religious tradition.The Old Testament is not a book of history. It is not a book of Science. Genesis 30 - the speckled and spotted sheep and goats. Extreme Views of the Old Testament Joseph Smith explained that some of the Old Testament pertains to us, but much does not. There has never been anything like universal consensus as to the list of books which belong in the Old Testament. It has never been settled and appears that it never will be. Discussion with callers on what to believe regarding supernatural claims in the Old Testament and elsewhere [...]

Rethinking the Old Testament I discuss a number of points from my study of the Old Testament which have contributed to the formulation of my conclusions regarding what it means to me and my religious tradition.The Old Testament is not a book of history. It is not a book of Science. Genesis 30 - the speckled and spotted sheep and goats. Extreme Views of the Old Testament Joseph Smith explained that some of the Old Testament pertains to us, but much does not. There has never been anything like universal consensus as to the list of books which belong in the Old Testament. It has never been settled and appears that it never will be. Discussion with callers on what to believe regarding supernatural claims in the Old Testament and elsewhere [...]

Facing the Old Testament I believe Old Testament is an important collection of religious writings in the Judeo/Christian/LDS tradition. The fact that there has been substantial development within the Judeo/Christian/LDS tradition has resulted in substantial neglect of the Old Testament by most LDS and other Christians. The following is a list of points which are so certain that there is not room for reasonable dispute. I discuss these points and briefly explain how they have shaped my approach to the Old Testament. Several participants join with me in this discussion. 1. There is not now, nor has there ever been a consensus as to what belongs in the canon of the Old Testament. 2. Every list or collection of Old Testament books is a selection from a much larger body of ancient Israelite and Jewish writings. 3. The authorship of most of the Old Testament books is unknown. 4. Much of the Old Testament makes no claim to revelation or inspiration. 5. A number of beliefs, ritual, laws and punishments are strange, and bizarre to us.6. Some of the Old Testament religion is illegal in America. 7. Many laws and principles which were to continue forever have been abolished by Christianity. 8. Some aspects of the portrayal of God in the Old Testament are not found in modern Christianity. 9. There is disagreement between a number of Old Testament passages and the findings of modern science. 10. A number of doctrines are not accepted by modern Christianity. 11. There are many differences in Old Testament accounts and beliefs. Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 13 January 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 28th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below.