Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show

71. More Thinking About Scriptures & Tradition I discuss some points raised by passages and situations in the scriptures.   Israelite views of proselytingDeuteronmy 32:8 and an ancient concept of God called henotheismNew Testament writers drawing from the Old Testament without concern for historicityIssue of retaining or setting aside the LawPower of tradition - even the Saints are slow to accept anything contrary to their traditionJoseph Smith's progressive outlookQuestions on Book of Mormon Historicity   Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDSMormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show 15 June 2008Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.comTo ParticipateLive, Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MSTLive, in Salt Lake Valley on AM Radio • K-TALK  630 AMLive, internationally on http://www.k-talk.comLive, our call-in number is 801-254-5855Live, participate sending short email mormontalkingpoints@gmail.comLive, your questions or comments are invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world.To make a comment here, click on “Comment” below

More Thinking About Scriptures Tradition I discuss some points raised by passages and situations in the scriptures.   • Israelite views of proselyting• Deuteronmy 32:8 and an ancient concept of God called henotheism • New Testament writers drawing from the Old Testament without concern for historicity • Issue of retaining or setting aside the Law • Power of tradition - even the Saints are slow to accept anything contrary to their tradition • Joseph Smith's progressive outlook • Questions on Book of Mormon Historicity   Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS   Official website: http://mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.com/ • This is the 15 June 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 29th year. • To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. • If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view.   Your voice will be heard around the world.   Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes   To make a comment, click on "Comment" below

70. LDS / non-LDS Exchange Don Ormsby, a guest host on the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, talks with Randy Loeppky a non-LDS Christian an active advocate that Mormon claims are false and Mormons are not Christian.  Discussion of whether or not the Church officers named in the New Testament should be continued in the Christian Church today.  Participants asked about Sunday restrictions, who will be saved?, the Nicene Creed and early views of the possibility of man's deification; revelation, why accept the Bible as the exclusive standard. Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show 31 August 2008 Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.com To Participate Live, Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST Live, in Salt Lake Valley on AM Radio • K-TALK  630 AM Live, internationally on http://www.k-talk.com Live, our call-in number is 801-254-5855 Live, participate sending short email mormontalkingpoints@gmail.com Live, your questions or comments are invited, regardless of your point of view.  Your voice will be heard around the world. To make a comment here, click on “Comment” below

70. LDS / non-LDS Exchange Don Ormsby, a guest host on the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, talks with Randy Loeppky a non-LDS Christian an active advocate that Mormon claims are false and Mormons are not Christian.  Discussion of whether or not the Church officers named in the New Testament should be continued in the Christian Church today.  Participants asked about Sunday restrictions, who will be saved?, the Nicene Creed and early views of the possibility of man's deification; revelation, why accept the Bible as the exclusive standard. Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDSMormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show 31 August 2008Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.comTo ParticipateLive, Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MSTLive, in Salt Lake Valley on AM Radio • K-TALK  630 AMLive, internationally on http://www.k-talk.comLive, our call-in number is 801-254-5855Live, participate sending short email mormontalkingpoints@gmail.comLive, your questions or comments are invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world.To make a comment here, click on “Comment” below

LDS / non-LDS Exchange Don Ormsby, a guest host on the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, talks with Randy Loeppky a non-LDS Christian an active advocate that Mormon claims are false and Mormons are not Christian.  Discussion of whether or not the Church officers named in the New Testament should be continued in the Christian Church today.  Participants asked about Sunday restrictions, who will be saved?, the Nicene Creed and early views of the possibility of man's deification; revelation, why accept the Bible as the exclusive standard. Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://mormonmiscellaneous.com Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.com/ This is the 31 August 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 29th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. To make a comment, click on "Comment" below

69. Mystery of the Book of Mormon Translation  I discuss the numerous early sources, beginning in 1829, regarding the translation of the Book of Mormon.  Differing statements, peculiarities, versions of the Book of Mormon supervised by Joseph Smith (the original manuscript and the printer's manuscript, the 1830, 1837 and 1840 editions) and points of logic and reason.  These factors have lead to several theories as to the source of the text of the Book of Mormon.  After some 180 years the matter yet remains a mystery. I focus especially on questions pertaining to the use of the interpreters, urim and thummim, seer stone and director.  I explain my own theory of the Book of Mormon translation.      Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show 13 July 2008 Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.com To Participate Live, Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST Live, in Salt Lake Valley on AM Radio • K-TALK  630 AM Live, internationally on http://www.k-talk.com Live, our call-in number is 801-254-5855 Live, participate sending short email mormontalkingpoints@gmail.com Live, your questions or comments are invited, regardless of your point of view.  Your voice will be heard around the world. To make a comment here, click on “Comment” below

69. Mystery of the Book of Mormon Translation  I discuss the numerous early sources, beginning in 1829, regarding the translation of the Book of Mormon. Differing statements, peculiarities, versions of the Book of Mormon supervised by Joseph Smith (the original manuscript and the printer's manuscript, the 1830, 1837 and 1840 editions) and points of logic and reason. These factors have lead to several theories as to the source of the text of the Book of Mormon. After some 180 years the matter yet remains a mystery. I focus especially on questions pertaining to the use of the interpreters, urim and thummim, seer stone and director. I explain my own theory of the Book of Mormon translation.     Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDSMormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show 13 July 2008Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.comTo ParticipateLive, Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MSTLive, in Salt Lake Valley on AM Radio • K-TALK  630 AMLive, internationally on http://www.k-talk.comLive, our call-in number is 801-254-5855Live, participate sending short email mormontalkingpoints@gmail.comLive, your questions or comments are invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world.To make a comment here, click on “Comment” below

Mystery of the Book of Mormon Translation I discuss the numerous early sources, beginning in 1829, regarding the translation of the Book of Mormon. Differing statements, peculiaries versions of the Book of Mormon supervised by Joseph Smith (the original manuscript and the printer's manuscript, the 1830, 1837 and 1840 editions) and points of logic and reason. These factors have lead to several theories as to the source of the text of the Book of Mormon. After some 180 years the matter yet remains a mystery. I focus especially on questions pertaining to the use of the interpreters, urim and thummin, seerstone and director. I explain my own theory of the Book of Mormon translation.     Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Talk Show Blog: Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog   This is the 24 August 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 29th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on "Comment" below

Testimony, Faith, Belief, Knowledge I addressed several points touched upon in recent talk shows and in follow-up emails regarding testimony, faith, belief, knowledge, sure knowledge.I have been a little surprised at the divergence of opinion on what I think should be simple definitions and in the fervor of those who subscribe to these different positions.What does it mean to have a testimony? Does that mean a sure knowledge? The LDS sources on this are extensive. We have good reason to be more precise in our use of words. When someone declares "I know..." I think there is value in that phrase having a precise meaning. I read a number of sources which support my conclusion that belief and knowledge in our religious terminology are different. I am comfortable with being a believer and declaring my convictions as belief rather than knowledge. Subjects raised by phone participants Mountain Meadows Massacre Common consent and false belief and prophecy Degrees of knowledge Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS  Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 24 August 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 29th year.To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below 

Testimony, Faith, Belief, Knowledge I addressed several points touched upon in recent talk shows and in follow-up emails regarding testimony, faith, belief, knowledge, sure knowledge.I have been a little surprised at the divergence of opinion on what I think should be simple definitions and in the fervor of those who subscribe to these different positions.What does it mean to have a testimony? Does that mean a sure knowledge? The LDS sources on this are extensive. We have good reason to be more precise in our use of words. When someone declares "I know..." I think there is value in that phrase having a precise meaning. I read a number of sources which support my conclusion that belief and knowledge in our religious terminology are different. I am comfortable with being a believer and declaring my convictions as belief rather than knowledge. Subjects raised by phone participants Mountain Meadows Massacre Common consent and false belief and prophecy Degrees of knowledge Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS  Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 24 August 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 29th year.To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below 

Testimony, Faith, Belief, Knowledge I addressed several points touched upon in recent talk shows and in follow-up emails regarding testimony, faith, belief, knowledge, sure knowledge.I have been a little surprised at the divergence of opinion on what I think should be simple definitions and in the fervor of those who subscribe to these different positions.What does it mean to have a testimony? Does that mean a sure knowledge? The LDS sources on this are extensive. We have good reason to be more precise in our use of words. When someone declares "I know..." I think there is value in that phrase having a precise meaning. I read a number of sources which support my conclusion that belief and knowledge in our religious terminology are different. I am comfortable with being a believer and declaring my convictions as belief rather than knowledge. Subjects raised by phone participants Mountain Meadows Massacre Common consent and false belief and prophecy Degrees of knowledge Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS  Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 24 August 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 29th year.To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below 

Mormons Who Ran for President Newell Bringhurst and Craig Foster joined me to discuss their new book on 10 Mormons who have run for President: The Mormon Quest for the Presidency. These include Joseph Smith, the two Romneys, Ezra Taft Benson, Orrin Hatch, Sonia Johnson and 4 others. Points discussed include: White Horse Prophecy Authors' presentations in the upcoming Sunstone Symposium and FAIR Conference Conspiracy to assassinate Joseph Smith Why did Joseph decide to run for President? Was it Joseph Smith's plan to move LDS headquarters from Nauvoo? Participation by callers and email Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS  Official website: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/ Podcast address: http://www.mormonmisc.podbean.com/ Talk Show Blog: mormonmiscellaneous.com/radioprogramblog This is the 3 August 2008 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 29th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world. Click to visit my eStore Catalog of Digital Articles related to some of my Podcast Episodes To make a comment, click on “Comment” below 

Massacre at Mountain Meadows  One hundred twenty emigrants passing through southern Utah on their way to California in 1857, at a time when the U.S. Army was on its way to Salt Lake City, unannounced and unexplained by President Buchanan, were massacred by Mormons and Indians, the Mormons taking the lead. Much written on the topic has been marred by bias, agendas and selective use of inadequate sources. Three LDS professional historians, with the input and review of many, LDS and non-LDS, representing a wide range of perspectives, have written what promises to be a masterpiece of historical research and writing. Ron Walker and Glen Leonard, co-authors of this long awaited book Massacre at Mountain Meadows, were my guests. We discussed their rendition of this event, including new sources and perspectives, resulting from their extensive research on this controversial topic. The third co-author, Rick Turley, Assistant LDS Church Historian, was in Mexico. Further, the authors spoke of their determination to examine the known sources which pertain to the topic and to seek out previously unknown sources. They explained the position of Church leadership to give them free access to all historical holdings of the Church and that their writing and conclusions would not be supervised nor reviewed by Church authorities. The book is published by Oxford University Press which has a reputation for publishing works which meet a high professional standard. The first printing of 10,000 was sold out before the official release, the second printing will not supply the current demand and a third printing is already planned.

Massacre at Mountain Meadows  One hundred twenty emigrants passing through southern Utah on their way to California in 1857, at a time when the U.S. Army was on its way to Salt Lake City, unannounced and unexplained by President Buchanan, were massacred by Mormons and Indians, the Mormons taking the lead. Much written on the topic has been marred by bias, agendas and selective use of inadequate sources. Three LDS professional historians, with the input and review of many, LDS and non-LDS, representing a wide range of perspectives, have written what promises to be a masterpiece of historical research and writing. Ron Walker and Glen Leonard, co-authors of this long awaited book Massacre at Mountain Meadows, were my guests. We discussed their rendition of this event, including new sources and perspectives, resulting from their extensive research on this controversial topic. The third co-author, Rick Turley, Assistant LDS Church Historian, was in Mexico. Further, the authors spoke of their determination to examine the known sources which pertain to the topic and to seek out previously unknown sources. They explained the position of Church leadership to give them free access to all historical holdings of the Church and that their writing and conclusions would not be supervised nor reviewed by Church authorities. The book is published by Oxford University Press which has a reputation for publishing works which meet a high professional standard. The first printing of 10,000 was sold out before the official release, the second printing will not supply the current demand and a third printing is already planned.

Massacre at Mountain Meadows  One hundred twenty emigrants passing through southern Utah on their way to California in 1857, at a time when the U.S. Army was on its way to Salt Lake City, unannounced and unexplained by President Buchanan, were massacred by Mormons and Indians, the Mormons taking the lead. Much written on the topic has been marred by bias, agendas and selective use of inadequate sources. Three LDS professional historians, with the input and review of many, LDS and non-LDS, representing a wide range of perspectives, have written what promises to be a masterpiece of historical research and writing. Ron Walker and Glen Leonard, co-authors of this long awaited book Massacre at Mountain Meadows, were my guests. We discussed their rendition of this event, including new sources and perspectives, resulting from their extensive research on this controversial topic. The third co-author, Rick Turley, Assistant LDS Church Historian, was in Mexico. Further, the authors spoke of their determination to examine the known sources which pertain to the topic and to seek out previously unknown sources. They explained the position of Church leadership to give them free access to all historical holdings of the Church and that their writing and conclusions would not be supervised nor reviewed by Church authorities. The book is published by Oxford University Press which has a reputation for publishing works which meet a high professional standard. The first printing of 10,000 was sold out before the official release, the second printing will not supply the current demand and a third printing is already planned.