Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show

85. Mormon History Association Representatives One guest was Kathyrn Daynes, current president of the Mormon History Association.  The other was Paul Reeve, a member of the MHA Board.  Both teach history, Daynes at BYU and Reeve at the University of Utah. They are both award winning authors.  Daynes has written a book, More Wives than One.  Reeve's book is Making Space on the Western Frontier: Mormons,. Miners, and Southern Paiutes. We discussed the upcoming Mormon Historical Association Annual Conference including a number of the topics to be covered, the history of the MHA and how a typical Conference is conducted.  Both guests commented on the difficulties of writing of historical papers and books. Daynes shared her perspective on a number of points and issues in Mormon practice of plural marriage in the 19th century.  We also discussed Reeve's research into the competing ethnicities in 19th century Mormon experience.      Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDSMormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, 17 May 2009.Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.com To Participate: Live, Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST Live, in Salt Lake Valley on AM Radio • K-TALK  630 AM Live, internationally on http://www.k-talk.com Live, our call-in number is 801-254-5855 Live, participate sending short email mormontalkingpoints@gmail.com Live, your questions or comments are invited, regardless of your point of view.  Your voice will be heard around the world. To make a comment here, click on “Comment” below

One guest was Kathyrn Daynes, current president of the Mormon History Association. The other was Paul Reeve, a member of the MHA Board. Both teach history, Daynes at BYU and Reeve at the University of Utah. They are both award winning authors. Daynes has written a book, More Wives than One. Reeve's book is Making Space on the Western Frontier: Mormons,. Miners, and Southern Paiutes. We discussed the upcoming Mormon Historical Association Annual Conference including a number of the topics to be covered, the history of the MHA and how a typical Conference is conducted. Both guests commented on the difficulties of writing of historical papers and books. Daynes shared her perspective on a number of points and issues in Mormon practice of plural marriage in the 19th century. We also discussed Reeve's research into the competing ethnicities in 19th century Mormon experience.    Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://mormonmiscellaneous.com Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.com/This is the 17 May 2009 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 29th year. To make a comment, click on "Comment" below   To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view.       Your voice will be heard around the world.    

85. Mormon History Association RepresentativesOne guest was Kathyrn Daynes, current president of the Mormon History Association. The other was Paul Reeve, a member of the MHA Board. Both teach history, Daynes at BYU and Reeve at the University of Utah. They are both award winning authors. Daynes has written a book, More Wives than One. Reeve's book is Making Space on the Western Frontier: Mormons,. Miners, and Southern Paiutes. We discussed the upcoming Mormon Historical Association Annual Conference including a number of the topics to be covered, the history of the MHA and how a typical Conference is conducted.  Both guests commented on the difficulties of writing of historical papers and books. Daynes shared her perspective on a number of points and issues in Mormon practice of plural marriage in the 19th century.  We also discussed Reeve's research into the competing ethnicities in 19th century Mormon experience.     Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDSMormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, 17 May 2009.Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.comTo Participate:Live, Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MSTLive, in Salt Lake Valley on AM Radio • K-TALK  630 AMLive, internationally on http://www.k-talk.comLive, our call-in number is 801-254-5855Live, participate sending short email mormontalkingpoints@gmail.comLive, your questions or comments are invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world.To make a comment here, click on “Comment” below

84. Mike Haxton, an ex-Mormon Bishop  We discussed the 1611 King James Bible which Haxton claims was superintended by God and is God's word in English. We pursued the question of which KJV is God's word since it was 6000 verses longer in 1611 than the editions published today. Haxton denied this. We discussed the modern translations, I argued for their value, he contended that they contain the word of God, but they are not the word of God as is the KJV.  We also discussed his stated view that salvation comes by grace through faith, nothing more and nothing less. In this discussion Haxton did, however, express his view that repentance and obedience to God's commands are required for salvation. The controversial topic of the Trinity was considered briefly. Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDSMormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, 12 April 2009.Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.com To Participate: Live, Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST Live, in Salt Lake Valley on AM Radio • K-TALK  630 AM Live, internationally on http://www.k-talk.com Live, our call-in number is 801-254-5855 Live, participate sending short email mormontalkingpoints@gmail.com Live, your questions or comments are invited, regardless of your point of view.  Your voice will be heard around the world. To make a comment here, click on “Comment” below

Mike Haxton, an ex-Mormon Bishop We discussed the 1611 King James Bible which Haxton claims was superintended by God and is God's word in English. We pursued the question of which KJV is God's word since it was 6000 verses longer in 1611 than the editions published today. Haxton denied this. We discussed the modern translations, I argued for their value, he contended that they contain the word of God, but they are not the word of God as is the KJV. We also discussed his stated view that salvation comes by grace through faith, nothing more and nothing less. In this discussion Haxton did, however, express his view that repentance and obedience to God's commands are required for salvation. The controversial topic of the Trinity was considered briefly. Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://mormonmiscellaneous.com Podcast address:http://mormonmisc.podbean.com/ This is the 12 April 2009 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 29th year. To make a comment, click on "Comment" below To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world.  

84. Mike Haxton, an ex-Mormon Bishop We discussed the 1611 King James Bible which Haxton claims was superintended by God and is God's word in English. We pursued the question of which KJV is God's word since it was 6000 verses longer in 1611 than the editions published today. Haxton denied this. We discussed the modern translations, I argued for their value, he contended that they contain the word of God, but they are not the word of God as is the KJV.  We also discussed his stated view that salvation comes by grace through faith, nothing more and nothing less. In this discussion Haxton did, however, express his view that repentance and obedience to God's commands are required for salvation. The controversial topic of the Trinity was considered briefly.Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDSMormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, 12 April 2009.Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.comTo Participate:Live, Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MSTLive, in Salt Lake Valley on AM Radio • K-TALK  630 AMLive, internationally on http://www.k-talk.comLive, our call-in number is 801-254-5855Live, participate sending short email mormontalkingpoints@gmail.comLive, your questions or comments are invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world.To make a comment here, click on “Comment” below

 83. Early Publications of LDS Revelations   My guest was Curt Bench. He is the proprietor of Benchmark Books in Salt Lake City and an expert on the wide range of publications on Mormonism over the past 179 years. Curt is a veteran dealer in publications old and new, rare and common.     Smith-Pettit Foundation has just published The Parallel Doctrine and Covenants: The 1832-1833, 1833, and 1835 Editions of Joseph Smith's Revelations. Curt authored the introduction. We discussed the history of the publication of Joseph Smith's revelations up to 1835.  Among the several early printings of the revelations there are many textual variations for a variety of reasons. The variants can be easily followed with this new important contribution to the study of early Mormonism.  We discussed several and also views of the nature of Joseph Smith's concept of revelation which would account for the changes made in the revelations.  Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDSMormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, 3 May 2009.Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.com To Participate: Live, Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST Live, in Salt Lake Valley on AM Radio • K-TALK  630 AM Live, internationally on http://www.k-talk.com Live, our call-in number is 801-254-5855 Live, participate sending short email mormontalkingpoints@gmail.com Live, your questions or comments are invited, regardless of your point of view.  Your voice will be heard around the world. To make a comment here, click on “Comment” below

 Early Publications of the Revelations  My guest was Curt Bench. He is the proprietor of Benchmark Books in Salt Lake City and an expert on the wide range of publications on Mormonism over the past 179 years. Curt is a veteran dealer in publications old and new, rare and common.    Smith-Pettit Foundation has just published The Parallel Doctrine and Covenants: The 1832-1833, 1833, and 1835 Editions of Joseph Smith's Revelations. Curt authored the introduction. We discussed the history of the publication of Joseph Smith's revelations up to 1835. Among the several early printings of the revelations there are many textual variations for a variety of reasons. The variants can be easily followed with this new important contribution to the study of early Mormonism. We discussed several and also views of the nature of Joseph Smith's concept of revelation which would account for the changes made in the revelations. Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS     Official website: http://mormonmiscellaneous.com Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.com/This is the 3 May 2009 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 29th year. To make a comment, click on "Comment" belowTo listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world.

 83. Early Publications of LDS Revelations  My guest was Curt Bench. He is the proprietor of Benchmark Books in Salt Lake City and an expert on the wide range of publications on Mormonism over the past 179 years. Curt is a veteran dealer in publications old and new, rare and common.    Smith-Pettit Foundation has just published The Parallel Doctrine and Covenants: The 1832-1833, 1833, and 1835 Editions of Joseph Smith's Revelations. Curt authored the introduction. We discussed the history of the publication of Joseph Smith's revelations up to 1835. Among the several early printings of the revelations there are many textual variations for a variety of reasons. The variants can be easily followed with this new important contribution to the study of early Mormonism. We discussed several and also views of the nature of Joseph Smith's concept of revelation which would account for the changes made in the revelations. Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDSMormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, 3 May 2009.Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.comTo Participate:Live, Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MSTLive, in Salt Lake Valley on AM Radio • K-TALK  630 AMLive, internationally on http://www.k-talk.comLive, our call-in number is 801-254-5855Live, participate sending short email mormontalkingpoints@gmail.comLive, your questions or comments are invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world.To make a comment here, click on “Comment” below

82. More on the Temple Ceremony  Tonight was a discussion, which began last week from a post, alleging elements of the temple ceremony claiming numerous 19th century Mormons, by oath, committed themselves to murder Americans and to seek the destruction of the Nation.  Other topics raised by participants include the question of:  Frequency and recording of revelations  Policies regarding the establishment of authority  Debate on Biblical infallibility  Mormons saving the Constitution.     Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDSMormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, 29 March 2009.Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.com To Participate: Live, Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST Live, in Salt Lake Valley on AM Radio • K-TALK  630 AM Live, internationally on http://www.k-talk.com Live, our call-in number is 801-254-5855 Live, participate sending short email mormontalkingpoints@gmail.com Live, your questions or comments are invited, regardless of your point of view.  Your voice will be heard around the world. To make a comment here, click on “Comment” below

More on the Temple Ceremony I continue a discussion of alleged elements of the temple ceremony which I began last week. I present and discuss sources regarding the numerous allegations that in the 19th century Mormons, by oath, committed themselves to murder Americans and to seek the destruction of the Nation. I do this in response to a post Other topics raised by participants include the question of the frequency and recording of revelations; the policies regarding the establishment of authority; a debate on the Biblical infallibility; Mormons saving the Constitution.   Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS Official website: http://mormonmiscellaneous.com Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.com/This is the 29 March 2009 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 29th year. To make a comment, click on "Comment" below To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to http://www.k-talk.com/ Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world.  

82. More on the Temple Ceremony Tonight was a discussion, which began last week from a post, alleging elements of the temple ceremony claiming numerous 19th century Mormons, by oath, committed themselves to murder Americans and to seek the destruction of the Nation. Other topics raised by participants include the question of: Frequency and recording of revelations Policies regarding the establishment of authority Debate on Biblical infallibility Mormons saving the Constitution.    Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDSMormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, 29 March 2009.Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.comTo Participate:Live, Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MSTLive, in Salt Lake Valley on AM Radio • K-TALK  630 AMLive, internationally on http://www.k-talk.comLive, our call-in number is 801-254-5855Live, participate sending short email mormontalkingpoints@gmail.comLive, your questions or comments are invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world.To make a comment here, click on “Comment” below

 81. Big Love and the Temple Ceremony Please be advised that this is a sensitive topic for LDS. Big Love is an HBO fictional series about a non-LDS group which subscribes to, and practices, their interpretation of Mormon polygamy of the 19th century. In the 15 March 2009 episode a false allegation is made about a commitment made, prior to 1990, by LDS participants in the LDS temple ceremony.  I discuss this and several other false allegations about the temple ceremony found in a number of anti-Mormon books, pamphlets and articles. These topics include: blood oaths, an oath of vengeance, a lecture and human executions. Topics raised by callers: Alleged blood oath Creation accounts in Genesis Alleged lecture at the veil in the St George Temple  EpisodeTalk Show host: Van Hale, LDSMormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, 22 March 2009.Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.comTo Participate:Live, Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MSTLive, in Salt Lake Valley on AM Radio • K-TALK  630 AMLive, internationally on http://www.k-talk.comLive, our call-in number is 801-254-5855Live, participate sending short email mormontalkingpoints@gmail.comLive, your questions or comments are invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world.To make a comment here, click on “Comment” below

 81. Big Love and the Temple Ceremony  Please be advised that this is a sensitive topic for LDS. Big Love is an HBO fictional series about a non-LDS group which subscribes to, and practices, their interpretation of Mormon polygamy of the 19th century. In the 15 March 2009 episode a false allegation is made about a commitment made, prior to 1990, by LDS participants in the LDS temple ceremony.  I discuss this and several other false allegations about the temple ceremony found in a number of anti-Mormon books, pamphlets and articles.  These topics include:  blood oaths, an oath of vengeance, a lecture and human executions.  Topics raised by callers:  Alleged blood oath Creation accounts in Genesis Alleged lecture at the veil in the St George Temple  Episode Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDSMormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, 22 March 2009.Podcast address: http://mormonmisc.podbean.com To Participate: Live, Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST Live, in Salt Lake Valley on AM Radio • K-TALK  630 AM Live, internationally on http://www.k-talk.com Live, our call-in number is 801-254-5855 Live, participate sending short email mormontalkingpoints@gmail.com Live, your questions or comments are invited, regardless of your point of view.  Your voice will be heard around the world. To make a comment here, click on “Comment” below

    Big Love and the Temple Ceremony Please be advised that this is a sensitive topic for LDS. Big Love is an HBO fictional series about a non-LDS group which subscribes to, and practices, their interpretation of Mormon polygamy of the 19th century. In the 15 March 2009 episode a false allegation is made about a commitment made, prior to 1990, by LDS participants in the LDS temple ceremony. I discuss this and several other false allegations about the temple ceremony found in a number of anti-Mormon books, pamphlets and articles. These topics include: blood oaths, an oath of vengeance, a lecture and human executions. Topics raised by callers: Alleged blood oath Creation accounts in Genesis Alleged lecture at the veil in the St George Temple 22 March 2009 Episode