Magness & Marcus on Coaching show

Magness & Marcus on Coaching

Summary: Coaches Steve Magness and Jon Marcus team up to bring you an insider's view on coaching. Taking you inside the thoughts and conversations that usually occur behind the scenes. They bring a diverse background having both worked with athletes at the collegiate and professional level. They hope to bring a mixture of science, old-fashioned wisdom, and a touch of philosophy to help understand the process of coaching and maximizing endurance performance. For more information visit www.ScienceOfRunning.com

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 Episode 101: Interview with Tony Holler | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 2:09:00

In episode 101 of the On Coaching Podcast we bring on special guest Tony Holler. Tony is a succesful high-school sprint coach who’s teams have won three state titles. He is known for his “Feed the Cats” program where he focuses on what matters in sprinting and keeping athletes engaged in the training. In this episode, we dive into Tony’s methods of developing speed and ask how that would translate to cross-country training. This episode will challenge your thinking. There will be some things that you disagree with, but it will make you think of training in a different way We hope you enjoy our conversation with Tony. Steve & Jon Share your thoughts with us on social media: Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 100: Strength & Conditioning with Alan Bishop | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:48:22

In episode 100 of the On Coaching Podcast we bring on special guest Alan Bishop. Alan is the strength and conditioning coach for the University of Houston men’s basketball program. In this wide-ranging conversation, we tackle everything from nutrition to what a proper squat looks like to developing buy-in. We go from the physiological to the psychological and everything in between. A few of the topics and insights Alan brought to the table are: * “Knowledge not applied is wasted.” What’s your one big takeaway that will make your life better?* The best program in the world run poorly is pretty worthless.* Nutrition: How we’ve overcomplicated it and need to focus on actionable solutions* Why Alan uses tempo runs and jump rope in his basketball conditioning.* The importance of complementing what you’re doing out on the court, field, or track, in the weight room. Don’t take away from it.* Job searching: Know what motivates you and find the environment that gives you that.* Set your standard and never negotiate effort.* “If you want to be fired, be afraid to call out your best player.”* “When you are home. Be home.”* Never sacrifice movement quality. We hope you enjoy our conversation with Alan. Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * Total Recall: My Unbelievably True Life Story* Buddhas Brain* The Scholar Program- Jon and Steve’s Coaches education program! Share your thoughts with us on social media: High-Performance West Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 99: Is it all about the shoes? | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:02:12

Is it all about the shoes? In this episode, we look at how recent shoe technology has changed the marathon. Is it all hype or is their substance to it? We dive into the research on the performance benefits and look at the performance of Kipchoge, Kosgei, and the American athletes for clues on how the marathon has changed. Finally, we discuss what we should do about it. Should we ban them? What about innovation? We try to cover it all in this weeks podcast. Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * Difference between Olympic Trials Marathon Qualifying in 2016 to 2020.* Amby Burfoot’s take on the shoe issue.* One Scientists proposal for how to regulate shoe technology* The Missouri HS Coaching Clinic featuring Vern Gambetta, Jimmy Radcliffe, Harry Mara, and more!* The Scholar Program- Jon and Steve’s Coaches education program! Share your thoughts with us on social media: High-Performance West Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 98: Models of Training That Make You Fast | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:09:14

Lydiard, Daniels, Maffetone, Canova, Pfaff, Tellez. In the world of running, we tend to throw out names of well-known coaches and say that we train utilizing their method. Their model of training. But what often happens is that a coaches method gets simplified to the extreme. Lydiard becomes about 100 mile weeks. Daniels becomes about reps, VO2max, and LT. Maffetone becomes about slow easy runs. But programs are more complex than what they are known for. In this episode, we explore the models of training that have stood the test of time. We delve into what their original training looked like, how it changed, and what stuck in our coaching education. We cover a range of topics including: * Ernst Van Aaken and the pure endurance method* The Original Lydiard- We forgot about the hills and speed!* The Intensity vs. Volume debate* Designing Workouts for Physiology, Psychology, Biomechanics, or Fun!* Stephen Seiller’s work on endurance training. Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * The Van Aaken Method* The Maffetone Method* Lydiard’s Original Training Schedules* The Missouri HS Coaching Clinic featuring Vern Gambetta, Jimmy Radcliffe, Harry Mara, and more!* The Scholar Program- Jon and Steve’s Coaches education program! Share your thoughts with us on social media: High-Performance West Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 97: Fatigue, Speedwork, Racing, and More | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:04:49

It’s time for a throwback episode. When we started this podcast it was about two coaches having a conversation. Join us for a discussion on all things performance as we talk about what we are struggling with as coaches, what we’re reading, and how we are trying to innovate in our own coaching. We cover a range of topics including: * Central and Peripheral Fatigue* When should we perform our fast work in workouts?* How do we define, measure, and conceptualize fatigue?* What if we flipped training, so we did the fast work first?* Singles, Doubles, Triples- The role of frequency in training.* The difference between running and racing.* Should we race more? Are we hurting the sport by limiting our racing at the highest levels? Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * The Van Aaken Method* Buddy Edelen* Central and Peripheral Fatigue in Cyclists Study* The Scholar Program Share your thoughts with us on social media: High-Performance West Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 96: A Real Talk Rant on Scholarships, Formulaic Coaching, and Core Values | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:23:36

This episode of the On Coaching podcast is my favorite type. A rant on hot topics in the coaching and sports world. Our goal is to give you the truth, the behind the scenes answers without any fluff. We start off with Athletic Scholarships. We cover everything from how difficult it is to obtain one, to understanding the college admissions and signing process, to evaluating schools. This is your behind the scenes look from two guys who competed and coached at the college level. From there, we venture to Formulaic Coaching. How do we move on from a paint by numbers style coaching and what should we be looking for in our coaching development? And finally, we dive into Core Values. Slogans that we plaster around our offices and athletic departments. What do they mean, should we utilize them, and the deep truth that your subordinates are smarter than you give them credit for. They can sniff out whether you are spewing BS or not. We hope that you enjoy this weeks episode. And if you do, please share on social media, or let us know what you think! Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * Science and Application of High-Intensity Interval Training: Solutions to the Programming Puzzle * Daniels Running Formula* How High Fives Help Win Basketball Games* The Scholar Program Share your thoughts with us on social media: High-Performance West Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 95: Playing Hurt- Understanding the Nuance of Injury. | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:06:09

Injuries are the bane of any coach or athlete. They derail our seasons and sometimes our careers. In theory, injuries are relatively easy to deal with. Rest, recover, take time off. But in reality, coaches and athletes are met with much more uncertainty. Can we “train” through a bout of tendonitis? When do we pull the plug? How do we rehab back from an injury? Not all injuries are as simple as a broken bone. In this episode we dive into the nuance of injuries, breaking down our decision making tree on how we delineate pain we can keep an eye on versus one that we have to listen to. We cover numerous topics including: * Are you looking for problems or solutions?* What’s the impact of having a preventative mindset in dealing with injuries? * Are the modalities and procedures we utilize evidence-based? When do we need to deviate from the evidence?* Do we need to recalibrate our view of what injured athletes can do?* We have a heavy biological bias when looking at injuries. We need to consider the brain. Neural signatures or patterns of past injuries stick around far after the bone or tendon has healed.* Don’t stop working the healthy leg when injured!* Load is a stimulus. You need some sort of load to heal bone, muscle, and tendons! Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * GAIN* Bill Knowles– Getting people back as fast as possible* John Kiely- The Robust Running Ape- Coordination* The Scholar Program Share your thoughts with us on social media: High-Performance West Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 94: Is Peaking a Myth? | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:13:04

Peaking! Do we drop the volume and intensity a bit and hope that our performance skyrockets? Or do we perform an exacting sequence of workouts designed to get you ready for race day? There are a lot of misconceptions on what exactly peaking entails. At its most basic level, it’s simply about putting the athlete in the best place to perform on race day. But when we dive deeper, there are a lot of myths and misconceptions on what peaking entails. In this episode we provide an in depth look at what peaking is. Starting with asking whether or not the models that underlie peaking are valid. Other topics include: * Are you taking the “Hail Mary” approach to peaking?* We’re only as good as our models. What are the flaws in the supercompensation and linear periodization models?* How does our view of stress and adaptation influence our model of peaking?* How much of peaking is psychological? Is it like a placebo response?* A coach’s role is setting the expectations. And how we set those expectations influences how our athlete reacts to peaking.* The difference between preparing to feel good enough, instead of seeking perfection.* How the mismatch between how we expect to feel and how we actually feel impacts our pacing.* Are you searching for validation in your workouts or aiming to get better? Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * The Passion Paradox. Steve’s new book!* The Science of Stress and Adaptation* Endure by Alex Hutchinson* Take the Lead by Scott Simmons* Burnout and the Brain* Run, Run, Run by Fred Wilt* Tapering and Peaking by Inigo Mujika Share your thoughts with us on social media: High-Performance West Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube

 Episode 93: The Biggest Mistakes Coaches Are Making Today | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:08:40

It’s time for a moment of reflection on the coaching profession. What are the things we are doing well? What can we improve on? What are some of the things we are doing now that we might look back upon in 30 years and wonder why we did that training? Coaching is a process of evolution, keeping what seems to work, improving on that which doesn’t. In today’s episode, we look back to the past for clues on where we might be going wrong and what direction training is headed. Topics include: * Avoiding coaching to the numbers.* The pendulum of coaching that swings back and forth with every generation* Understanding that knowledge can be deep dives or superficial takes. * What if our coaching assumptions are wrong?* What if the principle underlying adaptation (i.e. supercompensation) is wrong? How does that change our training.* Why endurance sports are biased towards energy systems.* How do we know what works and to keep, and what to get rid of? Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * The Passion Paradox. Steve’s new book!* The Science of the Stress Response* Relax and Win by Bud Winter* 21 Lessons for the 21st Century by Yuval Harrari* OODA Principle John Boyd* Daniel’s Running Formula* The Bondarchuk Method Share your thoughts with us on social media: High-Performance West Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 92: How to Crawl Out of the Burnout Hole | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:14:42

Note: Today is the last day to get exclusive running bonuses with the purchase of my new book, THE PASSION PARADOX! Check them out here. On this episode, we take on a very important topic, digging ourselves out of burnout. Both Jon and I have suffered through the ills of burnout. What we’ve found is that people misunderstand the concept. They think it’s solely due to too much work. That if we just take some time off, or maybe meditate, we’ll be okay. That couldn’t be further from the truth. In this episode, we take a deep dive into what burnout is and how to get out it: * When you are completely fried, even the simple things are difficult to do. That’s why it’s important to take on the smallest possible step.* We have this concept that if we feel apathetic, then it’s entirely our fault that we don’t have the willpower or drive to do something. That’s wrong. It’s just like being in the marathon when you bonk. You might have all the drive, but there’s nothing you can do.* From overtraining to depression to burnout, they have similar underlying biological reasons for them.* “What often happens is we dig out of the burnout hole, then walk 5 feet over and start digging a new hole. Pushers need to realize it’s not the job, it’s how you approach it.”* Our Environment shapes us. Our environment invites action. A look at how we rig our environment to help, not hurt us. (12min in)* What’s the center of our houses? The TV. We position our entire room around it. When we get home, it’s no wonder we plop down on the couch and binge on TV. It’s inviting us to do so.* Is it important or interesting? Prioritizing your time and energy.* Why Steve splits his watch during writing, just like he would for a workout. Tracking Intent (32min)* The most important piece to getting out of the burnout hole? The community you surround yourself with. (45min) Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * The Passion Paradox. Steve’s new book!* Burnout is more than just “too much work”* Goodbye, Things* Squat Every Day* The Creative Habit* Why the Stanford swim coach takes one day off from practice to go golfing a week.* Part 1 of our Podcast on Burnout Share your thoughts with us on social media: High-Performance West Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher

 Episode 91: Airing of The Grievances on Track and Field with Mario Fraioli | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 41:42

Note: Today is the last day to get exclusive running bonuses with the purchase of my new book, THE PASSION PARADOX! Check them out here. On this weeks episode, we bring in a special guest, Mario Fraioli of The Morning Shakeout to discuss the IAAF’s latest rule changes, how it impacts the Us Olympic Trials, and the future of track itself. In this episode, we break it all down for the track nerds among us. * What in the world are the IAAF rankings and are they valuable or biased?* How do the new rules impact the Olympic Trials?* What was the IAAF trying to do and what will the actual effect be?* How athletes get into meets isn’t the fairest process and the rankings depend on them…so?* How would Mario, Jon, or Steve change track if we were put in charge? Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * The Passion Paradox. Steve’s new book! Out NOW!* The Morning Shakeout Share your thoughts with us on social media: High-Performance West Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 90: David Epstein on All Things Performance, Drive, Passion, And Range. | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:16:09

A special episode of the On Coaching Podcast featuring NYT bestselling author David Epstein. In this wide-ranging conversation covering all things performance, we start off by discussing my new book The Passion Paradox and the similarities with David’s new book Range. From there we dive deep into the psychology of performance before ending on a discussion on following your interest, instead of specialization. We hope that you enjoy this special edition of the podcast: * Walking the tight rope of drive and success (8 min)* How did passion evolve from meaning suffering to something positive. (12min)* Cultivating passion and motivation in runners. We need to look at what is driving each of our runners, and identify who is going down the path of a motivation style that isn’t sustainable. (18min)* What makes people cheat, or utilize performance enhancing drugs? One indicator is when people go from a position of winning to losing. (26min)* Racing tactics- When going from a strong position to a weak position, how panic plays a role. (28min)* “People don’t know how to shoot the shit anymore.” The role of social media on how we judge and validate ourselves (36min)* “Every new generation has a skill set that is taken for granted in the previous generation. It used to be fixing the car, now it’s interaction.” (40min)* Moving up the ladder. Let your interest drive you, not the title. (54min)* Path Dependency- When we get stuck in doing things that fit in our competency or comfort zone. How do we break away from that? (1hr 10min) Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * The Passion Paradox. Steve’s new book! Out NOW!* Range. David Epstein’s new book. Out in April.* Whiplash.* Tribe by Sebastian Junger Share your thoughts with us on social media: High-Performance West Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail

 Episode 89: On Burnout. + A Tangent on Reading | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 52:00

In this weeks On Coaching Podcast, we get into the details of burnout, both as a coach and an athlete. It’s easy to fall for the effort trap. Where we convince ourselves that out working others is the key to success, and that we have the capability to push through anything to do so. Such a belief is a recipe for burnout. In addition, we go on a tangent on how we go about reading books. In this weeks episode we cover: * What does burnout feel like? * What are the signs and symptoms of burnout?* For “pushers”, rest is the most important antidote. But it’s not just any rest.* Activities either empty or fill or emotional bucket. We all need to develop hobbies and past times that fill our bucket back up.* Jon and Steve’s process of reading: Read similar to how you consume TV or music. Multiple books at once. Some for entertainment, others for education or knowledge. * Don’t feel like you have to finish a book. Be able to step away if it’s losing your interest, or skip sections Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * The Passion Paradox. Steve’s new book!* GAIN Seminar* Coaching and Care of Athletes by FA Webster* Daring Greatly by Brene Brown* The Golden Mile: A Biography of Herb Elliott* HPW Scholar Seminar* Henry Miller On Writing* MIT Sloan Conference- Discussion on Social Media Capturing Our Attention Share your thoughts with us on social media: High-Performance West Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 88: How Social Media and the Internet Influences Coaching and Performance | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 58:52

In this weeks On Coaching Podcast, we cover how social media influences performance. The ever-growing influence of social media and our online interactions change how our athletes (and our selfs!) relate to performing. Our comparison point has changed. We now have to judge ourselves against a never-ending supply of ‘friends’ on Instagram and Facebook. Our top athletes receive feedback from armchair quarterbacks after poor races. How do we deal with it all? That’s what this podcast is all about. Topics covered include: * Why message boards aren’t worth the risk.* Why the internet creates hostile arguments* Being Intent with your use of social media. What are you using it for? Are you mindlessly utilizing it?* How do we assimilate information and apply it?* The dilemma of expertise in a social media world. How everyone can become an expert and why we have to do our due diligence to understand who knows what they are talking about or not.* The importance of having skin in the game.* Paying your dues and finding a mentor.* “Coaching is NOT creating a menu of training intensities and workouts. That’s a fitness instructor. Coaching is teaching people how to win.”* The Blame Game: How do we handle conflict and blame in a modern world?* Are you allowing other people space in your head rent free? Be aware who you are giving influence to. Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * Skin in the Game by Nassim Taleb* ALTIS course* Outside Magazine article on crazy Biohacking* Daniels Running Formula* Share your thoughts with us on social media: High-Performance West Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube

 Episode 87: There are NO Magic Training Intensities | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:01:48

In the endurance world, we’ve come to believe that there are certain intensities or paces that do more than others! If we run at these specific zones, we will improve, and if we run bit too fast or too slow, we are in a grey zone where workouts don’t help as much. VO2max, Lactate Threshold, Critical Velocity, and so forth. Run at these paces, not faster or slower, and you will run fast. It’s all BS. There are no magical training paces. Yes, they do different things, but that doesn’t mean that they are better or worse.In this episode of the On Coaching Podcast, we delve into the nuance of workout intensities. Topics covered include: * Science vs. Nature* The physiology behind all of the different intensity zones* Clean Slate Phenomenon- Why any training (including dumb stuff!) works for a short time!* Misattribution of success- Why we are fooled by training intensities.* Seeing the big picture.* The recovery response to the activity is the source of the improvement!* What’s the best way to damage athletes? That’s what we are doing. Damage leads to an opportunity for improvement.* Utilizing a variety of ingredients, instead of relying on the magic ingredient.* Training = Fatigue Tolerance.* The 5 Types of Fatigue Resources Mentioned in the Podcast The Unforgiving Minute by Ron Clarke Clean Slate Phenomenon Stephen Seiler Stress + Rest = Growth from Peak Performance High Performance West Scholar Program Share your thoughts with us on social media: High-Performance West Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube

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