Magness & Marcus on Coaching show

Magness & Marcus on Coaching

Summary: Coaches Steve Magness and Jon Marcus team up to bring you an insider's view on coaching. Taking you inside the thoughts and conversations that usually occur behind the scenes. They bring a diverse background having both worked with athletes at the collegiate and professional level. They hope to bring a mixture of science, old-fashioned wisdom, and a touch of philosophy to help understand the process of coaching and maximizing endurance performance. For more information visit www.ScienceOfRunning.com

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 Episode 116: Endurance Development- Part 1 | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:06:46

It’s time for a deep dive into training. This week begins a multi-part series on the development of an athlete. We start with the intake process and deciding where to go with the athlete, and move on to what kind of training the athlete should do. For this week, we focus on the 5k and up, the distance events.We walk you through: * Event Demand + Athlete Characteristics = Training Program.* How to find the weak link in the chain, and then what to do about it?* Periodization based on the individual athlete.* Setting a foundation with pure speed and general endurance. Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * Sprint Training for distance runners* How to Classify Runners* Research on the Individual Response to Training* A Brief History of Interval Training Visit our Sponsor Want to up your coaching game? Try the HPW Scholar series. A massive library of coaching resources, courses, and podcasts that cover everything from training design, elite runners programs, and the psychology of performance. Updated every week with exclusive interviews, lectures, and training plans. Visit the HPW Academy of Scholarship today! Share your thoughts with us on social media: Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 115: Fartleks, Alternations and the Lost Workout Style | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:03:19

Fartleks, the wonderful invention of Gusta Holmer in the 1930’s, is something we are all familiar with. Run hard for a minute, jog for a minute, repeat twenty times. But in today’s world where everything is measured and coaches rely on that feedback to adjust workloads, the fartlek is becoming a lost art. In this episode, we go deep on what fartleks are, what they do, and where we have misinterpreted them. We go into the natural evolution of Holmer’s original idea, discussing how Kenyans utilize the concept and Renato Canova’s use of alternations as a modern incarnation of the workout. We hope that you walk away with a new appreciation for fatlek workouts, and more so, have some new ideas on how to implement them into your program. Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * An explanation of Canova and the use of alternations* Gunder Hagg and the use of Fartlek* A Brief History of Interval Training Visit our Sponsor Want to up your coaching game? Try the HPW Scholar series. A massive library of coaching resources, courses, and podcasts that cover everything from training design, elite runners programs, and the psychology of performance. Updated every week with exclusive interviews, lectures, and training plans. Visit the HPW Academy of Scholarship today! Share your thoughts with us on social media: Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 114: Do Fast Times Transfer to Being Competitive | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:04:00

Do the fastest athletes always win? The ones who come in with the best seed time. The athlete who threw down that fast mile at Mt. Sac or a blazing 5k at Stanford? If not, how come?In episode 114, we explore the world of racing. What does it mean to be competitive and can we train racing as a skill? The track world is two different sports rolled into one. The first, a time trial type sport, where we try to set ourselves up to run as fast as possible. Then, once the championship season starts, it’s as if we’ve ditched the old rules and implemented new ones. Now, it’s all about racing. Are you coaching competitiveness or compliance? As a note for this month during COVID, we are offering a 50% off of the HPW The Scholar Program, use the COUPON: STRONGERTOGETHER Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * Herb Elliott: The Golden Mile Visit our Sponsor Want to up your coaching game? Try the HPW Scholar series. A massive library of coaching resources, courses, and podcasts that cover everything from training design, elite runners programs, and the psychology of performance. Updated every week with exclusive interviews, lectures, and training plans. We are offering a 50% off during COVID-19. Visit the HPW The Scholar Program and use the COUPON: STRONGERTOGETHER Share your thoughts with us on social media: Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 113: Being Fit Doesn’t Mean Running Fast | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:05:07

“He’s really fit! They’re going to run really well!” How many times have you heard a coach excitedly proclaim that, only to see their athlete perform poorly? It happens to all of us. We’re left scratching our heads after the race. They were crushing workouts, we might think. How could they not put it together?In episode 113, we take on the concept of fit, but not fast. As coaches and athletes, we correlate fitness with performance, but it’s not a 1:1 correlation. In the episode, we discuss how to translate fitness to performance, why that disconnect exists, and what we can do about it. As a note for this month during COVID, we are offering a 50% off of the HPW The Scholar Program, use the COUPON: STRONGERTOGETHER Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * The Bondarchuk Method* Herb Elliott: The Golden Mile Visit our Sponsor Want to up your coaching game? Try the HPW Scholar series. A massive library of coaching resources, courses, and podcasts that cover everything from training design, elite runners programs, and the psychology of performance. Updated every week with exclusive interviews, lectures, and training plans. We are offering a 50% off during COVID-19. Visit the HPW The Scholar Program and use the COUPON: STRONGERTOGETHER Share your thoughts with us on social media: Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 112: The Myth of Losing Speed | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:12:33

One of my pet peeves when discussing endurance work is the concept of losing speed. In the middle distance world, this concept of losing speed is widespread. Go to any coaching conference, hang around enough coaches, or just talk to your athletes and you’ll hear this concept over and over. It’s used as an argument against doing any kind of aerobic work, regardless of sport or event. It’s thought that only those “slow” distance kids should do long work because speed doesn’t matter much in their world. So they can afford to be slow. But here’s the thing, if you are losing speed that much during training, it’s not the long aerobic work that is doing it, it’s that your training sucks.In this episode, we discuss why athletes tend to lose speed and what they can do to maintain or develop it. As a note for this month during COVID, we are offering a 50% off of the HPW The Scholar Program, use the COUPON: STRONGERTOGETHER Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * The Science of Losing and Maintaining Speed* Podcast with Tony Holler* Arthur Lydiard: The Father of Modern Training Visit our Sponsor Want to up your coaching game? Try the HPW Scholar series. A massive library of coaching resources, courses, and podcasts that cover everything from training design, elite runners programs, and the psychology of performance. Updated every week with exclusive interviews, lectures, and training plans. We are offering a 50% off during COVID-19. Visit the HPW The Scholar Program and use the COUPON: STRONGERTOGETHER Share your thoughts with us on social media: Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 111: Top Mistakes Highly Motivated Athletes Make and Why | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:05:35

Highly motivated athletes are the best to coach. You don’t have to worry if they got their run or workout in, they are always eager to train, perform, and do what’s necessary to get better. But, there are pitfalls that even the most well-intentioned athletes need to be aware of. The higher the motivation, the greater the likelihood of overtraining. In this episode, we go over what to watch out for in motivated athletes, including: * They fall for the more is better fallacy* They tie their identity to what you do* They lose perspective and are unable to zoom out* They have difficulty stepping off the merry go round As a note, we are offering a 50% off of the HPW The Scholar Program, use the COUPON: STRONGERTOGETHER Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * The Jordan Rules* The Passion Paradox* How Economists rode math to become the new astrologers Visit our Sponsor Want to up your coaching game? Try the HPW Scholar series. A massive library of coaching resources, courses, and podcasts that cover everything from training design, elite runners programs, and the psychology of performance. Updated every week with exclusive interviews, lectures, and training plans. We are offering a 50% off during COVID-19. Visit the HPW The Scholar Program and use the COUPON: STRONGERTOGETHER Share your thoughts with us on social media: Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 110: Endurance Speed or Speed Endurance? Which approach should we take? | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:07:32

Should we start with speed first or endurance? Do you start with a large base of easy running before layering on the speed work, or do we start with running fast before extending it? Those are the questions we tackle during this weeks On Coaching Podcast. Highlights include: * What lens are you seeing training through? A physiological one or neuromuscular/biomechanical one? * Why did Lydiard win out against Igloi, Stampfl and the speed based programs?* What can we learn from the speed based coaches, and should we ever go against our training philosophy? As a note, we are offering a 50% off of the HPW The Scholar Program, use the COUPON: STRONGERTOGETHER Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * Arthur Lydiard’s Training Schedules* Bob Schul’s training for the Olympics. Speed work for distance runners.* Podcast with Alan Webb Visit our Sponsor Want to up your coaching game? Try the HPW Scholar series. A massive library of coaching resources, courses, and podcasts that cover everything from training design, elite runners programs, and the psychology of performance. Updated every week with exclusive interviews, lectures, and training plans. We are offering a 50% off during COVID-19. Visit the HPW The Scholar Program and use the COUPON: STRONGERTOGETHER Share your thoughts with us on social media: Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 109: The Fine Line Between Serious and Obsessive | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 57:45

Are you serious, committed, willing to put in all the work? If so, you’re a coaches dream. But your commitment can hold you back if it comes from the wrong place. In episode 109, we discuss the difference between being serious and obsessive about your craft and how that impacts your long term development. Topics covered include: * Serious = sustainable and caring* Obsessive = Driven by fear, angst. Almost like an addiction* Being secure vs. insecure in who you are and your confidence in your abilities often determines what route you go.* The role enjoyment plays in development as an athlete.* How do we cultivate athletes who are serious and committed, but have the self-awareness to step back when they are headed towards obsession?* The interplay between hard and easy training. And why recovery training is vital to “fill your bucket” back up. As a note, we are offering a 50% off of the HPW The Scholar Program, use the COUPON: STRONGERTOGETHER Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * The Last Dance- Documentary on Michael Jordan* The Passion Paradox– Harmonious vs. Obsessive Passion* Greg Lemond’s Complete Book of Cycling– Chapter 6 on training Visit our Sponsor Final Surge is a training log designed for athletes, coaches, and teams. They are giving listeners of the podcast 10% off by using the coupon code ONCOACHING For coaches, it makes assigning workouts and designing training plans a breeze. It allows copious amounts of feedback from athletes, and even a message board for your athletes to interact, creating team bonding from afar. For athletes, it’s a sophisticated log that can track just about everything. How do we know it’s good? I utilize Final Surge with my athletes as a way to plan, track, and receive feedback on all of their training. Check out Final Surge and receive 10% off by visiting http://www.finalsurge.com/oncoaching and using the coupon code ONCOACHING  Share your thoughts with us on social media: Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher

 Episode 108: Secrets Revealed- Developing Championship Runners | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:07:58

In episode 108, we dive into what it takes to become a championship level athlete, whether that championship is at the high school state meet, the NCAA championships, or a national or international title. covered include: * The importance of developing the athlete, the person staring back at you. * Raising the Floor versus Ceiling* It matters more to put yourself in the position to win consistently, then to actually win.* Lessons from Michael Jordan * Lessons from Alan Webb and how he wasn’t a high mileage runner, but he was a high volume one! As a note, we are offering a 50% off of the HPW The Scholar Program, use the COUPON: STRONGERTOGETHER Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * The Last Dance- Documentary on Michael Jordan* Confidence comes from raising the floor, not the ceiling* Interview with Adam Didyk- Exclusively available to the Scholar Program- Jon and Steve’s Coaches education program! Visit our Sponsor Final Surge is a training log designed for athletes, coaches, and teams. They are giving listeners of the podcast 10% off by using the coupon code ONCOACHING For coaches, it makes assigning workouts and designing training plans a breeze. It allows copious amounts of feedback from athletes, and even a message board for your athletes to interact, creating team bonding from afar. For athletes, it’s a sophisticated log that can track just about everything. How do we know it’s good? I utilize Final Surge with my athletes as a way to plan, track, and receive feedback on all of their training. Check out Final Surge and receive 10% off by visiting http://www.finalsurge.com/oncoaching and using the coupon code ONCOACHING  Share your thoughts with us on social media: Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 107: A Track and Field New World Order: Make Track Great Again | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 54:38

In episode 107, we dive into what the sport will look like when we emerge from our current pandemic, and how it will have to change. We dive into a slew of topics, aimed at re-imagining our sport. Major sports (NFL,NBA, MLB) change their rules and playoff structures while keeping their history intact, how do we do the same? Topics covered include: * We need to shift to seeing track and field as entertainment. * How do we develop a coherent storyline for our sport?* What does the future of college track and cross-country look like? Do we need to go a more regional model? * What does it look like if we don’t have college football in the fall? As a note, we are offering a 50% off of the HPW The Scholar Program, use the COUPON: STRONGERTOGETHER Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * Guts and Genius: The Story of Three Unlikely Coaches Who Came to Dominate the NFL in the ’80s * The Scholar Program- Jon and Steve’s Coaches education program!- For a FREE MONTH, use the COUPON: BetterTogether Visit our Sponsor Final Surge is a training log designed for athletes, coaches, and teams. They are giving listeners of the podcast 10% off by using the coupon code ONCOACHING For coaches, it makes assigning workouts and designing training plans a breeze. It allows copious amounts of feedback from athletes, and even a message board for your athletes to interact, creating team bonding from afar. For athletes, it’s a sophisticated log that can track just about everything. How do we know it’s good? I utilize Final Surge with my athletes as a way to plan, track, and receive feedback on all of their training. Check out Final Surge and receive 10% off by visiting http://www.finalsurge.com/oncoaching and using the coupon code ONCOACHING  Share your thoughts with us on social media: Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

 Episode 106: The Hot Hand and The Science of Streaks: A Discussion with Ben Cohen | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:19:03

In episode 106, we bring on author Ben Cohen to have a discussion on streaks, the role of science and expertise in decision making, and our propensity to see patterns where they may not exist. His new book, The Hot Hand, is a fantastic read. We hope you enjoy the discussion, as it’s filled with insight that will help your coaching, including: * The lessons from a farmer on how to perform when uncertainty is high and control is low: Play defense. Remember the long game. Control what you can control. Prepare for the worst and hope for anything remotely better. Always stick to principles over patterns.* Is having an outsider’s view beneficial to your team or thinking?* The role of control and circumstance in performance.* How to weigh experience when making decisions?* The battle of science versus practitioners. How do we value each?* The way science should work- “The capacity for discomfort is the mark of an honest scientist.”* And what role does the hot hand play in running and can we engineer it? As a note, we are offering a FREE month of the HPW The Scholar Program, use the COUPON: BetterTogether Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * The Hot Hand by Ben Cohen* Range by David Epstein* Surviving Uncertainty* The Scholar Program- Jon and Steve’s Coaches education program!- For a FREE MONTH, use the COUPON: BetterTogether Visit our Sponsor Final Surge is a training log designed for athletes, coaches, and teams. They are giving listeners of the podcast 10% off by using the coupon code ONCOACHING For coaches, it makes assigning workouts and designing training plans a breeze. It allows copious amounts of feedback from athletes, and even a message board for your athletes to interact, creating team bonding from afar. For athletes, it’s a sophisticated log that can track just about everything. How do we know it’s good? I utilize Final Surge with my athletes as a way to plan, track, and receive feedback on all of their training. Check out Final Surge and receive 10% off by visiting http://www.finalsurge.com/oncoaching and using the coupon code ONCOACHING  Share your thoughts with us on social media: Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail

 Episode 105: Clarity is Power: Coaching, Training, and Achieving During Difficult Times | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 58:53

Normally running is an achievement-focused sport. We’re trying to win races and run PR’s. We’re not going to have any achievement opportunities for the foreseeable future. How do we frame running and keep athletes motivated when achievement isn’t on the horizon. In this podcast we discuss: * Adopting the “Old” model of racing and competition.* How do you handle a 6-month block of not racing? What kind of workouts should you do? Where should your focus be?* Learning from history: What Lydiard, the Flying Finn’s, and Zatopek can teach us about long blocks of training without racing. As a note, we are offering a FREE month of the HPW The Scholar Program, use the COUPON: BetterTogether Steve & Jon Visit our Sponsor Final Surge is a training log designed for athletes, coaches, and teams. They are giving listeners of the podcast 10% off by using the coupon code ONCOACHING For coaches, it makes assigning workouts and designing training plans a breeze. It allows copious amounts of feedback from athletes, and even a message board for your athletes to interact, creating team bonding from afar. For athletes, it’s a sophisticated log that can track just about everything. How do we know it’s good? I utilize Final Surge with my athletes as a way to plan, track, and receive feedback on all of their training. Check out Final Surge and receive 10% off by visiting http://www.finalsurge.com/oncoaching and using the coupon code ONCOACHING  Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * Working from Home? Try these tips* The Immune System and Exercise: What You Need to Know* Lydiard Training* Learning from Emil Zatopek* The Foundation of Coaching Seminar– Learn the History of Endurance Training* The Scholar Program- Jon and Steve’s Coaches education program!- For a FREE MONTH, use the COUPON: BetterTogether* Share your thoughts with us on social media: Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and

 Episode 104: What to Do During Adverse and Challenging Times: A Runner’s Guide to COVID-19 | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 51:20

Adversity, challenge, tough times; all experiences that we proclaim sport teaches us how to manage. Well, now is the time to put that experience into action. While we’re talking specifically about dealing with the cancellations, shut-downs, and disruption of life caused by the coronavirus (COVID-19), in this episode we want to explore how we can apply those lessons to handle adversity. We discuss: * The importance of embracing reality* The difference between preparation and panic* Understanding the demands of the challenge that we’re faced with.* How to decide what kind information is good or bad.* Using a model including: Science, Theory, Practice, and History to guide decision making. We are not experts on a virus, but we hope to bring some reality to the situation and explain how to use your skills that you’ve developed as a coach and athlete to manage difficult situations that disrupt our life. Steve & Jon Visit our Sponsor Final Surge is a training log designed for athletes, coaches, and teams. They are giving listeners of the podcast 10% off by using the coupon code ONCOACHING For coaches, it makes assigning workouts and designing training plans a breeze. It allows copious amounts of feedback from athletes, and even a message board for your athletes to interact, creating team bonding from afar. For athletes, it’s a sophisticated log that can track just about everything. How do we know it’s good? I utilize Final Surge with my athletes as a way to plan, track, and receive feedback on all of their training. Check out Final Surge and receive 10% off by visiting http://www.finalsurge.com/oncoaching and using the coupon code ONCOACHING  Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * Panic or Prepared? The Importance of Embracing Reality* Skip the Gym, And Lots of Stuff, to Keep Yourself and Community Safe* Social distancing is the only way to stop the coronavirus. We must start immediately.* The Foundation of Coaching Seminar– Learn the History of Endurance Training* The Scholar Program- Jon and Steve’s Coaches education program! Share your thoughts with us on social media: Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher

 Episode 103: Why You Shouldn’t Train Like a Pro…Unless You’re a Pro | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:18:19

In episode 103, we explore why training knowledge seems to come from the top down. We take our training cues from the top and then water down the training for our college, high school, and recreational athletes. Is that the right way to do it? We argue no. In this episode, we explore: * Why we can’t treat younger athletes like “short adults.”* You can’t skip steps! Understand what’s needed to set the stage for the next part of the athlete’s career.* Bringing Periodization to one’s career instead of just the season.* “What if the athlete won’t run in college or as a pro?” You are still setting the foundation! It might not be for elite performance, but it is for (hopefully) running for life.* How do you determine what to work on? What’s maxed out as an athlete? Where is there room for improvement, or a stimulus that he or she hasn’t done yet? * The key to developing athletes year after year is to look for holes in their training. Steve & Jon Visit our Sponsor Final Surge is a training log designed for athletes, coaches, and teams. They are giving listeners of the podcast 10% off by using the coupon code ONCOACHING For coaches, it makes assigning workouts and designing training plans a breeze. It allows copious amounts of feedback from athletes, and even a message board for your athletes to interact, creating team bonding from afar. For athletes, it’s a sophisticated log that can track just about everything. How do we know it’s good? I utilize Final Surge with my athletes as a way to plan, track, and receive feedback on all of their training. Check out Final Surge and receive 10% off by visiting http://www.finalsurge.com/oncoaching and using the coupon code ONCOACHING  Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * The Science of Running Book* Long Term Training- HS to Pro* The Playmaker’s Advantage* The Foundation of Coaching Seminar– Learn the History of Endurance Training* The Scholar Program- Jon and Steve’s Coaches education program! Share your thoughts with us on social media: Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes

 Episode 102: High Volume AND High Speed Training | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:16:52

In episode 102 of the On Coaching Podcast we take on the never-ending argument over volume versus intensity of training. We go back into the history books to look at the poster children of high volume training and high-intensity training to try to get to the root of the argument. A few key takeaways include: * Everything bleeds together- Why energy system categories are overused.* Why every distance runner should run 100 meters all-out* “Check the box syndrome”- When we categorize training (i.e. Vo2max, lactate threshold, anaerobic power) we tend to cycle through workouts so that we can check them off as completed.* Are you building or maintaining a component? How much does it take to do either?* Can we develop speed and endurance at the same time? Steve & Jon Resources Mentioned in the Podcast * Running My Way by Harry Wilson* The Foundation of Coaching Seminar– Learn the History of Endurance Training* The Scholar Program- Jon and Steve’s Coaches education program! Share your thoughts with us on social media: Steve: Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube Jon: Twitter and Instagram Ways to Listen and Subscribe to the Podcast:  iTunes Stitcher via E-mail Youtube Spotify

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