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Jacob Weisberg talks to Masha Gessen about why she thinks the latest developments in the Donald Trump Jr. story aren't as revelatory as people are making it out to be.

Mary Wilson with three things: The death of a Russian KGB mastermind, a “straight no comment” from Emin Agalarov, and a new way to become a saint. 

Brian sits down with Alton Brown of Good Eats, Iron Chef America, and more, to discuss his history with the band R.E.M., the origins of Good Eats, and Alton's love of Gaines-Burgers dog food. 

John McWhorter explains why we love shrinkage.Join Slate Plus! Members get bonus segments, exclusive member-only podcasts, and more. Sign up for a free trial today at www.slate.com/podcastsplus. Twitter: @lexiconvalleyFacebook: facebook.com/LexiconValleyEmail: lexiconvalley@slate.com

Jacob Weisberg talks to Anne Applebaum, columnist at the Washington Post, about Donald Trump Jr's meeting with the Kremlin linked lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya and why she thinks this could be the story that finally begins to sink members of the Trump campaign.

The jobs report has been good, the U.S. isn’t in a shooting war, and the economy is booming. So why is Trump still in the high 30s in terms of popularity? Political scientist Seth Masket says it’s because of Trump’s abrasive presence on Twitter. Masket recently made the case for why it’s in everyone’s best interest for the president and the social media giant to part ways in the Pacific Standard.   In the Spiel, Kellyanne Conway, the gift that keeps on giving.Join Slate Plus! Members get bonus segments, exclusive member-only podcasts, and more. Sign up for a free trial today at Slate.com/gistplus.

Jim Newell is joined by Vox reporter Dylan Scott to discuss how a week in their home states affected Republican senators’ attitudes toward the health-care bill. Is there any hope for the legislation when the most common feelings are ambivalence or fervent opposition? (Jordan Weissmann is on vacation.) Email: trumpcaretracker@slate.com

Mary Wilson with three things: A menacing website in Russia, a redistricting push from Obama, and an unusual interview with Defense Secretary Jim Mattis.

Chris Berube with the (terrifying) rundown: A cyberattack hits US nuclear plants; The US state department can't even find a hotel room in Germany; Trump pairs up with an actual super villain (kinda)

On this season of Working, we left the East Coast behind and flew to Detroit. We’re speaking with eight people who are drawing on the city’s complex history as they work to create its future. For this episode, we spoke with Diana Nucera, director of the Detroit Community Technology Project.Diana Nucera runs an organization that promotes digital literacy and internet access in Detroit. Diana tells us about how she works to fill in technological gaps in Detroit—a city where nearly 40% of households still don't have internet access. She talks us through her organization's digital literacy programs and describes their efforts to build networks to build networks. Nucera also tells us a bit about her organization's DIY roots, and how they fit into the city's evolving political infrastructure. In a Slate Plus Extra, Nucera describes how net neutrality might change and how that might affect DCTP's work. If you’re a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your two-week free trial at slate.com/workingplus.Email: working@slate.comTwitter: @Jacob_BroganProduction: Mickey Capper, @FMcapper

Josh King talks to Max Bergmann, a Senior Fellow at the Center for American Progress, about President Trump's trip to the G20 and how Rex Tillerson is destroying the State Department. Read Max's latest Politico story, "Present at the Destruction: How Rex Tillerson is Wrecking the State Department," by clicking here.

Felix Salmon of Fusion, emerging-markets expert Anna Szymanski, author Jesse Eisinger, and archeologist Larry Coben discuss:-       The Chickenshit Club by Jesse Eisinger-       Sexual harassment in Silicon Valley-       Hobby Lobby’s attempted acquisition of ancient artifactsCheck out other Panoply podcasts at panoply.fm.Email: slatemoney@slate.comTwitter: @LarryCoben, @eisingerj, @felixsalmon, @Three_GuineasProduction by Daniel Schroeder

Daniel Okrent did not have a lot of fun as the first public editor for the New York Times. “I was like internal affairs in a police department,” said Okrent. “Nobody liked to see me coming.” That said, Okrent defends the role ombudsmen play at news organizations, and he thinks the Times messed up earlier this year when it axed the public editor position. In the Spiel, there was no Labrador at the Trump-Putin meeting, so …  good sign? 

Aisha Harris talks to Gloria Calderon Kellett, the showrunner for One Day at a Time, about how the show pulls from her personal life and Latinx representation on screen. And in our Pre-Woke Watching segment, Panoply producer Renee Richardson reflects on some problematic aspects of Sex and the City.For links on what we discuss check out our show page.Represent Live at the Speak Up, Rise Up FestivalWHEN: August 16th at 7:30 pmWHERE: Connelly Theater in NYCFor more information and tickets visit slate.com/liveTell a friend to subscribe! Share this link: megaphone.link/representEmail: represent@slate.comFacebook: Slate RepresentTwitter: @SlateRepresent, @craftingmystyleProduction by Veralyn WilliamsSocial media: Marissa Martinelli