![Composer Quest: A Songwriting and Music Composition Podcast show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/052/713/small/composer-quest.jpg)
Summary: I talked with my cousin, Nathan Graves, who fronts the band With a Gun for a Face and writes solo music under the name Kurtz. Nate's music is usually pretty dark and dissonant, but strangely catchy. We talk about why avant garde art is important.