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Summary: How to get ahead in Politcs - Biol Jones talks to Laurie about shinning up the greasy pole. Also, do freedom and equality sometimes conflict? A.C.Grayling and Ronald Dworkin (author of Justice For Hedgehogs) tell Laurie any supposed conflict is just a misunderstanding.