![Beyond the Technology: The education 4.0 podcast show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/033/246/small/jisc-podcast.jpg)
Summary: Ewan McIntosh, Digital Commissioner for 4iP, talks with Rebecca O'Brien from Jisc via Skype about mobile gaming, how thinking from the learner's perspective is key, and how universities have a virtual role in mixing logical thinking with inspiring creativity. Ewan will be delivering one of the keynote speeches at Jisc's annual conference in Edinburgh on March 24th, 2009.