Summary: Paul Collins joins Vyz to dig deeper into the Venetian roots of the Magicians of Mutability. This episode is part 5 of "The Magicians of Mutability." In the mid 2000's, Vyzygoth had a series of conversations with research writers/brothers Paul and Phillip Collins on his Grassy Knoll radio show. This wide ranging series provides some now-forgotten history that informs what is happening today. The episode originally aired on February 24, 2005. Chapters are back thanks to GarageBand 6.0.5, Podcast Chapters and Podcast Index. As a reminder, if you're on an Android device, AntennaPod is the podcast player that correctly displays chapters. If you're on an Apple device, you'll need to download the m4a file from the web site to have chapters work correctly. Find other episodes and series under the Pages section on the right. Listen below or download it here. window.dataLayer = window.dataLayer || []; function gtag(){dataLayer.push(arguments);} gtag('js', new Date()); gtag('config', 'G-G7YM4PJT9V'); window.dataLayer = window.dataLayer || []; function gtag(){dataLayer.push(arguments);} gtag('js', new Date()); gtag('config', 'G-4XPJ6GGGC1'); Chapter Markers: 00:00:00 - Radio music intro and chit chat 00:02:55 - History of Venice 00:04:28 - Paul means Noah, not Moses 00:05:00 - Francesco Zorzi (1st spelling) and Henry VIII 00:05:30 - Francesco Giorgi (2nd spelling) and Henry VIII 00:08:32 - Venetian #1 - Giammaria Ortes - the original Malthus 00:12:08 - Now, Dangers of a Population Implosion 00:16:25 - Paul Ehrlich - doomsday scientist 00:18:56 - Al Gore - a true believer 00:24:59 - The price we've paid for listening to these guys 00:33:58 - The brothers' book 00:34:51 - Paul's book 00:35:21 - Thanks for sending value back! 00:36:14 - A medical tale 00:40:22 - John D. Rockefeller - father of the US pharmaceutical industry 00:42:43 - Venetian #2 - Paolo Sarpi - founder of Empiricism 00:50:12 - Venetian #3 - Gasparo Contarini - protector of Ignatius of Loyola (creator of the Jesuits)00:58:20 - Radio exit music via bitcoin via lightning boosts IMAGE CREDITS SciFantasy wizard - Prototyperspective, CC0, via Wikimedia Commons Map of Venice - Homann Heirs, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons Gianmaria Ortes - http://ase.signum.sns.it/foto/Ortes.jpg, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons Paul Ehrlich - Unknown photographer, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons Al Gore - Tom Raftery, CC BY-SA 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons Roe v Wade - Delphi234, CC0, via Wikimedia Commons John D. Rockefeller - American Press Association, CC0, via Wikimedia Commons Paolo Sarpi - See page for author, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons Gasparo Contarini - Madonna dell'Orto, CC BY-SA 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons Ascendancy of the Scientific Dictatorship cover Hidden Face of Terrorism cover