Summary: <p>0:00 - Intro/Preliminaries<br>13:55 - Conspiracy in the medical field<br>20:00 - Conspiracy as convergence<br>25:25 - Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos<br>31:00 - Only conspiracy if intuitions are wrong<br>33:40 - Factors in conspiracies<br>42:00 - Monolithic ideologies and conspiracy<br>55:55 - Importance of data and vaccines<br>1:09:15 - How to deal with tribalism<br>1:20:35 - Revolving doors<br>1:32:00 - Bringing it all together</p><p>I chat with David Pudwill, a former FDA employee and a current consultant, about conspiracy and convergence in government and medicine. </p><p>0:00 - Intro/Preliminaries<br>13:55 - Conspiracy in the medical field<br>20:00 - Conspiracy as convergence<br>25:25 - Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos<br>31:00 - Only conspiracy if intuitions are wrong<br>33:40 - Factors in conspiracies<br>42:00 - Monolithic ideologies and conspiracy<br>55:55 - Importance of data and vaccines<br>1:09:15 - How to deal with tribalism<br>1:20:35 - Revolving doors<br>1:32:00 - Bringing it all together</p><p><br></p><ul> <li><strong>A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!</strong></li> <li> <strong>Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo:</strong> https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/</li> <li> <strong>Facebook Page: </strong>https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tour</li> <li> <strong>YouTube:</strong> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriber</li> <li> <strong>Instagram: </strong>https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ </li> <li> <strong>Kingdom Outpost:</strong> https://kingdomoutpost.org/</li> <li> <strong>My Reading List Goodreads:</strong> https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot</li> <li> <strong>Propaganda Season Outline:</strong> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xa4MhYMAg2Ohc5Nvya4g9MHxXWlxo6haT2Nj8Hlws8M/edit?usp=sharing </li> <li> <strong>On Revolving Doors:</strong> http://dreamsforourchildren.com/2022/11/30/on-revolving-doors/</li> <li> <strong>Data, Information, Knowledge, Insight, Wisdom, and Conspiracy Theories: </strong>https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.linkedin.com/posts/linasbeliunas_this-is-very-accurate-activity-6998615769840254977-jP5s/?trk%3Dpublic_profile_like_view%26originalSubdomain%3Dme&sa=D&source=docs&ust=1670598932271956&usg=AOvVaw1Jv666CaOU4lOtlxEylNPb </li> <li> <strong>FDA AIDS Protest:</strong> https://www.flickr.com/photos/fdaphotos/4898662239</li> <li> <strong>George Carlin Conspiracy and Convergence:</strong> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6lBTYPUIW4 </li> <li> <strong>Dallas Buyer's Club: </strong>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDvPcBeOn8E </li> <li> <strong>Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle": </strong>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41681.The_Jungle?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=0Z1crHedXs&rank=1 </li> <li> <strong>Change blindness test: </strong>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo</li> <li> <strong>Change Blindness: </strong>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtKt8YF7dgQ</li> <li> <strong>Confirmation Bias:</strong> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kho5KvPBDSw </li> </ul><p><br></p> <strong>Thanks to our monthly supporters</strong> <ul> <li>Philip Does</li> <li>Laverne Miller</li> <li>Jesse Killion</li> </ul> <strong> <a href="https://www.patreon.com/thefourthway" rel="payment" title="★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★">★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★</a> </strong>
