Summary: <p>I had the privilege of talking with Pastor Greg Johnson of Memorial Presbyterian, St. Louis, about conservative Christian language, discipleship, and conversion therapy. </p><p>0:00 - Introduction<br>5:10 - Pastor Johnson's Introduction<br>9:00 - Science, Religion, and Conversion Therapy<br>21:30 - Why do conservative Christians fixate on conversion?<br>29:00 - Is language important?<br>34:30 - Propagandizing the Ideal or Erecting a Shibboleth<br>42:15 - Discipleship vs. Change<br>49:30 - Eudaemonism and the failing church<br>59:00 - Guilt vs. Shame<br>63:00 - Experience w/the other pole<br>72:50 - Plugs and closing</p><p><br></p><ul> <li><strong>A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!</strong></li> <li> <strong>Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo:</strong> https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/</li> <li> <strong>Facebook Page: </strong>https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tour</li> <li> <strong>YouTube:</strong> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriber</li> <li> <strong>Instagram: </strong>https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ </li> <li> <strong>Kingdom Outpost:</strong> https://kingdomoutpost.org/</li> <li> <strong>My Reading List Goodreads:</strong> https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot</li> <li> <strong>Propaganda Season Outline:</strong> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xa4MhYMAg2Ohc5Nvya4g9MHxXWlxo6haT2Nj8Hlws8M/edit?usp=sharing </li> <li> <strong>Episode Outline/Transcript: </strong>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R97MEQ82dR2KTYNDKE5Qqj69Czgn3cm4RtANyic78zA/edit?usp=sharing</li> <li> <strong>Still Time to Care:</strong> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56097388-still-time-to-care?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=2eAKEjg84g&rank=1</li> <li> <strong>Outlove: </strong>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55182405-outlove?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=dJsz1gGxrn&rank=1</li> <li> <strong>Preston Sprinkle:</strong> https://www.prestonsprinkle.com/</li> <li> <strong>Costly Obedience:</strong> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42771954-costly-obedience?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=9fhTim4WY6&rank=1</li> </ul><p><br></p> <strong>Thanks to our monthly supporters</strong> <ul> <li>Philip Does</li> <li>Laverne Miller</li> <li>Jesse Killion</li> </ul> <strong> <a href="https://www.patreon.com/thefourthway" rel="payment" title="★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★">★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★</a> </strong>
