Summary: <p>This episode explores abuse and propaganda in the real world by talking with two women who work with survivors of abuse. </p><p><br></p><ul> <li><strong>A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!</strong></li> <li> <strong>Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo:</strong> https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/</li> <li> <strong>Facebook Page: </strong>https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tour</li> <li> <strong>YouTube:</strong> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriber</li> <li> <strong>Instagram: </strong>https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ </li> <li> <strong>Kingdom Outpost:</strong> https://kingdomoutpost.org/</li> <li> <strong>My Reading List Goodreads:</strong> https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot</li> <li> <strong>Propaganda Season Outline:</strong> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xa4MhYMAg2Ohc5Nvya4g9MHxXWlxo6haT2Nj8Hlws8M/edit?usp=sharing </li> <li> <strong>Spotify Playlist:</strong> https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4VSvC0SJYwku2U0awRaNAu?si=3ad0b2fbed2e4864</li> <li> <strong>Episode Outline/Transcript:</strong> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gmAVx4hq2ToO7mSHTamSAnciYZpQk_Tq8HBfqdVCuVo/edit?usp=sharing</li> <li> <strong>Previous Interview: </strong>https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/113-s7e10-interview-submission-oppression-and-freedom</li> <li> <strong>The Body Keeps the Score:</strong> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18693771-the-body-keeps-the-score?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=cjyc48Wmam&rank=1 </li> <li> <strong>Why Does He Do That?:</strong> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/224552.Why_Does_He_Do_That_?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=XBbJo995ph&rank=1</li> <li> <strong>Chris Moles: </strong>http://www.chrismoles.org/</li> </ul><p><br>0:00 - Introduction<br>5:25 - Judy and Rosanna Introduction<br>8:05 - How to define abuse<br>12:20 - Patterns make abuse<br>15:15 - How abusers gain control<br>22:30 - Why don't survivors recognize abuse sooner?<br>31:20 - Mithridatism and Sensitization<br>40:30 - How did you recognize abuse for the first time?<br>45:00 - How does the church handle abuse?<br>51:45 - How should the church handle abuse differently?<br>1:04:45 - Closing remarks</p><p><br></p> <strong>Thanks to our monthly supporters</strong> <ul> <li>Philip Does</li> <li>Laverne Miller</li> <li>Jesse Killion</li> </ul> <strong> <a href="https://www.patreon.com/thefourthway" rel="payment" title="★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★">★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★</a> </strong>
