Hacked by Hungary




The Europeans show

Summary: <p>What does it feel like to know that your government has been able to access every single message on your phone? Last year, the Hungarian investigative journalist Szabolcs Panyi found out that he'd been hacked using Pegasus spyware. This week we hear about his latest investigation, which looks at how the Orbán government managed to get hold of this incredibly powerful surveillance tool in the first place. We're also talking about last weekend's mysterious German train sabotage and growing European protests against World Cup hosts Qatar.</p> <p>You can follow Szabolcs on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/panyiszabolcs">here</a> and read the inside story of how Pegasus was brought to Hungary <a href="https://www.direkt36.hu/en/feltarulnak-a-pegasus-kemszoftver-beszerzesenek-rejtelyei/">here</a> via Direkt36. A background read on the spyware scandal currently rocking Greece can be found <a href="https://www.politico.eu/article/greek-spyware-inquiry-ends-in-stalemate/">here</a>.</p> <p>Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcast and would like to help us keep making it, we'd love it if you'd consider chipping in a few bucks a month at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/europeanspodcast">patreon.com/europeanspodcast</a> (many currencies are available). You can also help new listeners find the show by <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-europeans/id1315776736">leaving us a review</a> or giving us five stars on Spotify.</p> <p>This week's Isolation Inspiration:</p> <p>The latest visual episode in This Is What A Generation Sounds Like, our series with Are We Europe: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ04UhndwM0">Denisa</a></p> <p>Scottish crime drama <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZMNCJa-ck4">Karen Pirie</a></p> <p>'Les années' (The Years) by Annie Ernaux</p> <p>00:22 Welcome!<br> 02:49 Bad Week: The Great German Train Sabotage Mystery<br> 10:22 Good Week: Europe's growing World Cup protest movement<br> 24:39 Interview: Szabolcs Panyi on being hacked by the Hungarian government<br> 36:06 Isolation Inspiration: 'Denisa', 'Karen Pirie', and 'The Years' by Annie Ernaux<br> 40:39 Happy Ending: Waxworms, gross but good</p> <p>Producers: Katy Lee and Wojciech Oleksiak</p> <p>Music: Jim Barne and Mariska Martina</p> <p>This podcast is part of the Are We Europe family. Find more like-minded European podcasts at <a href="https://www.areweeurope.com/audio-family" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">areweeurope.com/audio-family</a>.</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/europeanspod" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/europeanspodcast/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> | <a href="mailto:hello@europeanspodcast.com" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hello@europeanspodcast.com</a></p>