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Summary: Cybersecurity threat modeling: automated tools or manual methods? It's not an either-or situation, say Stephen de Vries, CEO and co-founder of IriusRisk, and Adam Shostack, president of Shostack and Associates. Each approach brings unique business value, and they discuss the merits of both methods.