Summary: <p>This week's episode features a special cross-over conversation from the <a href="https://www.oreilly.com/topics/oreilly-security-podcast">O'Reilly Security Podcast</a>, which you can find on <a href="http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/oreilly-media-2/oreilly-security-podcast?refid=stpr">Stitcher</a>, <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/oreilly-security-podcast-oreilly/id1117871288">iTunes</a>, <a href="https://soundcloud.com/oreilly-radar/sets/oreilly-security-podcast">SoundCloud</a>, or <a href="http://feeds.podtrac.com/5xZaPOpMqOrn">RSS</a>. O'Reilly's <a href="https://twitter.com/courtneynash">Courtney Nash</a> chats with <a href="https://twitter.com/Dymaxion">Eleanor Saitta</a>, a security architect at Etsy. They talk about the importance of thinking of security in a human context and the increasingly critical relationship between security and design.</p>
