Summary: He's spent 35 years giving readers the inside view of San Francisco, Bay Area and California politics. Now, in this excerpt from the It's All Political podcast, Phil Matier talks to Joe Garofoli about covering Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom from the beginning. | Unlimited Chronicle access: sfchronicle.com/pod Listen to the full episode here: pod.fo/e/b562a Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
