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Summary: In Episode 161, Dr. Rick and Phil have a conversation with Jeff Juhala, National Director of Training and Ministry Programs for For the Children.
Summary: In Episode 161, Dr. Rick and Phil have a conversation with Jeff Juhala, National Director of Training and Ministry Programs for For the Children.