Summary: David, Gyuri, and I discuss the issues they argue for in their back and forth commentaries about the importance of neuroscience and psychology, or implementation-level and computational-level, to advance our understanding of brains and minds - and the names we give to the things we study. Gyuri believes it’s time we use what we know and discover about brain mechanisms to better describe the psychological concepts we refer to as explanations for minds; David believes the psychological concepts are constantly being refined and are just as valid as objects of study to understand minds. They both agree these are important and enjoyable topics to debate. Also, special guest questions from Paul Cisek and John Krakauer. Related: Buzsáki lab; Poeppel labTwitter: @davidpoeppel.The papers we discuss or mention:Calling Names by Christophe BernardThe Brain–Cognitive Behavior Problem: A Retrospective by György Buzsáki.Against the Epistemological Primacy of the Hardware: The Brain from Inside Out, Turned Upside Down by David Poeppel.Books:The Brain from Inside Out by György Buzsáki.The Cognitive Neurosciences (edited by David Poeppel et al). Timeline: 0:00 - Intro 5:31 - Skip intro 8:42 - Gyuri and David summaries 25:45 - Guest questions 36:25 - Gyuri new language 49:41 - Language and oscillations 53:52 - Do we know what cognitive functions we're looking for? 58:25 - Psychiatry 1:00:25 - Steve Grossberg approach 1:02:12 - Neuroethology 1:09:08 - AI as tabula rasa 1:17: 40 - What's at stake? 1:36:20 - Will the space between neuroscience and psychology disappear?
