![Small Beans show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/079/805/small/small-beans.jpg)
Summary: Fresh off their epic Sega/Nintendo clash, the guys calm things down with a game everyone can agree on. Why was SMW such a phenomenon? What aspects make it such a sustaining piece of interactive art? What does its appeal say about human nature? Probably something about turtles.