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Summary: The Foundation for the Defense of Democracy’s Jonathan Schanzer joins the COMMENTARY podcast to talk about his article in the latest issue, “Countering a Corrupt China.” How Beijing has come to dominate international institutions, and how to roll back their influence after the COVID-19 outbreak.