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Summary: Andrew Ferguson joins the podcast today to discuss the White House shift toward the grim realities of the next couple of weeks, as we consider whether sheltering-in-place can continue indefinitely without driving everybody mad. Then we recommend books and discuss the problematic character of Woody Allen. Give a listen.