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Summary: Service meshes, Istio and the underling architectures — fine topics to discuss over a short stack with The New Stack. At Kubecon + Cloud NativeCon in San Diego, We explore the scaling of application architectures and how business objectives fit with approaches, team development and workflows that come with service mesh technologies.