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Summary: How many times have you heard somebody say, "Federal managers to be efficient and effective?" At the Department of Homeland Security, that adage is flipped. Randolph “Tex” Alles is acting undersecretary for management at DHS. He told Federal News Network Executive Editor Jason Miller why he expects DHS managers to be effective first and efficient a close second. Hear more details on Federal Drive with Tom Temin.