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Summary: Do you struggle with comparison, expectations and perfectionism? Well you're not alone. Colleen Caroll Campbell joins Steve and Becky to share her story about how some saints and a heretic helped her find a new kind of perfection, freedom in Christ. Her new book is The Heart of Perfection:How the Saints Taught Me to Trade My Dream of Perfection for God's. Today's broadcast is brought to you in part by Solidarity Healthshare www.solidarityhealthshare.org/