![Pod On The Hill - Victorian Labor Podcast show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/071/728/small/pod-on-the-hill.jpg)
Summary: He's the Shadow Defence Minister, the Deputy Leader of the Labor Party and he loves Geelong. We speak to Richard Marles about when Kardinia Park tops Disneyland, how his snow globe collection began and what shapes his thoughts on defence policy.