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Summary: What does religious liberty actually mean? Author and lawyer Steven Collis talks about four very different Americans — a Catholic priest, an atheist, a Klamath Indian man, and a Christian baker — who put their reputations and livelihoods at risk to preserve and live their personal beliefs.