![The Gramophone podcast show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/082/104/small/the-gramophone-podcast.png)
Summary: Kaija Saariaho has written a song-cycle, True Fire, for the baritone Gerald Finley, and which is had now recorded with the Finnish Radio Symphony Orchestra and Hannu Lintu, for Ondine. James Jolly paid Gerald Finley a visit to talk about the score, its challenges and how he and Saariaho first encountered each other.