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Summary: Jessica Toonkel talks about AT&T's struggles to turn its advertising unit, Xandr, into an advertising powerhouse capable of challenging the big digital companies. Kevin discusses Apple and how its scaled back its reliance on AWS.
Summary: Jessica Toonkel talks about AT&T's struggles to turn its advertising unit, Xandr, into an advertising powerhouse capable of challenging the big digital companies. Kevin discusses Apple and how its scaled back its reliance on AWS.