![Sounds True: Insights at the Edge show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/024/319/small/insights-at-the-edge.jpg)
Summary: Tami Simon speaks with Mariana Caplan, PhD, a psychotherapist, cultural anthropologist, and professor of yogic and transpersonal psychologies at the California Institute of Integral Studies. She is also the author of the new Sounds True book Eyes Wide Open: Cultivating Discernment on the Spiritual Path. Mariana discusses enlightenment, the teacher-student relationship, and what makes someone “spiritually mature.” (54 minutes)