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Summary: …on creating something timeless. Jessie Jay is a partner and designer at True Hand Society, creating modern, dynamic branding that harkens back to a more traditional, bespoke style. He joins the show for a conversation about doing work for small businesses, design as a compulsion and how much a fully stacked iPod would be worth in a post-apocalyptic world.