David Checketts (Part 2) on leaving the Jazz, working for the league and eventually the Knicks organization, Patrick Ewing, turning the Knicks into a contender, John Starks, Pat Riley's departure for Miami, and the Jeff Van Gundy era.

Summary: David Checketts sits down with Spence to discuss his tenure with the New York Knicks & Madison Square Garden. Topics discussed include: leaving the Jazz (2:30), negotiating with Pat Riley and Patrick Ewing (9:09), turning the Knicks into a winning franchise (36:32), John Starks' 2-18 performance (41:02), Pat Riley leaving for Miami (45:19), the Jeff Van Gundy era (56:25), and Dave's legacy on the Jazz and Knicks franchises (1:07:58). Visit realitycheckpod.com to subscribe.