NSC Live: “I always tell people it’s a sales job. You’re really essentially a salesman.”
![The Accidental Safety Pro show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/087/244/small/the-accidental-safety-pro.jpg)
Summary: Jill James, Chief Safety Officer and show host, talks with Justin, a VP of Safety, with an oil and gas company in Texas–live from the Expo floor of the NSC Congress.