![RealTalk MS show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/080/855/small/realtalk-ms.jpg)
Summary: Victoria Reese is the founder of the We Are Illmatic campaign. Earlier this year, I had an opportunity to talk with Victoria about the concept of inclusion in the MS community, and how the We Are Illmatic campaign is out to change the face of MS. We're also talking about a research review that reminds us how very bad smoking is for people living with MS, the results of a 10-year study in the U.K. about the cost-effectiveness and clinical effectiveness of 4 MS disease modifying therapies, and lots more!