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Summary: In this episode, I directly address some of the concerns, controversies, and issues surrounding the methods and practices employed by Octavio Rettig and how he works with toad medicine. This is not a defense, nor a condemnation, but more of an exploration of the issues to encourage more informed and balanced discussion.