Summary: Eat Vegan With Me author Mary Lawrence reached guru status for host Victoria Moran when Lawrence said, "Tell people you're plant-based if you want them to know you changed your diet; tell them you're vegan if you want them to know you intend to change the system." Ellen Debenport gets her guru card by being a genuine spiritual teacher, Unity minister, vegan, and author of The Five Principles: A Guide to Practical Spirituality.
