![Through Process show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/062/922/small/through-process.png)
Summary: Mitch and Joshua are joined by designer and educator Nancy Bernardo for a talk about bullshit. We discuss the value (or not) of bullshit, post-facto rationalization, and consider what would happen if designers were not allowed to bullshit about their work.