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Summary: Andrew interviews former co-worker and long time friend Seth Barber. Seth works with Ellislab on the CMS ExpressionEngine. Agency work, beards, raising children, and pens.
Summary: Andrew interviews former co-worker and long time friend Seth Barber. Seth works with Ellislab on the CMS ExpressionEngine. Agency work, beards, raising children, and pens.