Summary: So I won a raffle at Traffic & Conversion Summit, and my prize: 15 minutes in an open booth conversation with Pat Flynn of The Smart Passive Income. Freak out moment for sure! I was only podcasting for 3 weeks at this point and totally went fan boy. Hear my voice crackle and my nerves come through in this excited moment to have a conversation with someone I truly admire and respect as a dad, husband, business man and podcast godfather.
