Summary: Norma interviews Kelly Framel (founder of The Glamourai) about her life, career, and favorite master painter, then follows up by interviewing Rachel Rothman (chief technologist at Good Housekeeping) about motherhood, exercise, motivation, and more. <br><hr><p style="color: grey;">See <a style="color: grey;" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://acast.com/privacy">acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>
