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Summary: One of your favorite technologies is on the death wagon, again. Gartner recently recommended avoiding JEE for new, cloud native application development. This predictably kicked up all sorts of push-back from the JEE stalwarts. In this episode we discuss the report, the responses, and all the context to figure out what to make of all this. Spoiler: JEE isn't dead, as ever, it's just a part of the ongoing gumbo that is a Java application. See full show notes at http://cote.io/conversations47