![Design Matters with Debbie Millman show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/027/070/small/design-matters-with-debbie-millman-2009-2012.jpg)
Summary: On this podcast Debbie talks to Krista Tippet about her religious orientation, her struggle with depression, and about why it’s so hard to understand our historical moment.
Summary: On this podcast Debbie talks to Krista Tippet about her religious orientation, her struggle with depression, and about why it’s so hard to understand our historical moment.