AS 86: How to Outsource Better – John Jonas uses 17 Virtual Assistants to Grow His Kingdom – CEO of OnlineJobs.ph
Summary: Today we're going learn how to outsource our businesses so we can take it to the next level. I’ve got John Jonas on the show, He’s the CEO of OnlineJobs.ph, the largest website for finding Filipino virtual workers, with over 250,000 Filipino resumes and over 100,000 employers from around the world using it. He works about 17 hours per week, choosing to spend his time with his family rather than working.<br> <br> <br> <br> What you'll learn:<br> <br> * How to outsource tedious, repetitive tasks<br> * How John Jonas build his foundational framework to grow his businesses<br> * Strategies and plans he executes on<br> * How much it costs to outsource<br> * The country he uses to outsource work<br> * Why to outsource to the Philippines<br> * What John worries about<br> * What led him to outsourcing<br> * How he has grown his company and only works 17 hours a week<br> <br> And much more!<br> <br> Contact John:<br> <a href="http://onlinejobs.ph">http://onlinejobs.ph</a><br> <br> DAVID ALADDIN: Great to have you on the show, John!<br> <br> JOHN JONAS: Yeah, thanks for having me!<br> <br> DAVID ALADDIN: So, can you take us to the beginning before your online successes, where did your journey begin?<br> <br> JOHN JONAS: I graduated from college in 2004 and I had a job out of school for ten months. And I am a terrible employee. My only goal at that time was to quit my job, that was all I wanted! Because my wife, we had our little boy, he was about a year old, and my wife would call me while I was at work and just…she would say: oh, you just missed what he did, and this was so cute! And I hated it! I hated being away! And then I…working the job for me it doesn’t work super well. Like when there’s not an incentive to do good work, if I don’t make more money for doing good work, then I just don’t do good work. So…<br> <br> DAVID ALADDIN: What job were you doing, if you don’t mind me asking?<br> <br> JOHN JONAS: So, I graduated from college in computer science. I was doing programming.<br> <br> DAVID ALADDIN: Very cool!<br> <br> JOHN JONAS: It was fine. It was fine, whatever!<br> <br> DAVID ALADDIN: So, that, you know, like… I went into engineering and I don’t do that anymore. And so, you know, those types of degrees take a lot of work and effort. Did you have any regrets going into college for all that and then just quitting?<br> <br> JOHN JONAS: No, I don’t, because it set me up really well. I don’t do any programming now. When I quit my job, I still did programming for myself. It just wasn’t…it wasn’t until I realized…it wasn’t until I learned I can hire someone else to do it for me for very, very reasonable cost, that I realized that programming doesn’t make money. Marketing and sales make money. And if you do programming, you can’t do marketing and sales. It just…programming is just too consuming to allow you to do other stuff.<br> <br> DAVID ALADDIN: It’s interesting that you said it because, you know, programming takes intense amount of time, and it’s not even…it doesn’t even lead up to the sale actually. And it seems like you figured that out right away, and you went straight to the sales. So, what sales did you go into?<br> <br> JOHN JONAS: So, I’ve been running online businesses since I quit my job. And the stuff that I was doing twelve years ago, it doesn’t work today.<br> <br> DAVID ALADDIN: What was that?<br> <br> JOHN JONAS: It was kind of giving out schemes that actually worked. And I didn’t get rich with it, but at least I saw. I started making money with it pretty quickly. It was building websites and getting them into Google, and getting them to the top of Google, and…<br> <br> DAVID ALADDIN: That was a big thing.<br> <br> JOHN JONAS: Yeah, it was.<br> <br> DAVID ALADDIN: Create a lot of neat sites and ranks for those keywords,
