Summary: I’ve been aware of MJ for a couple of years now, but on the occasion of the upcoming May release of <a href="http://whitecrowbooks.com/books/page/ufos_reframing_the_debate/">UFOs – Reframing the Debate</a>, a book in which we are both featured, we started to talk and decided an interview was inevitable.<br> F0r the first 20 minutes of the conversation, we actually discussed issues with my Co-creation hypothesis idea, and MJ pointed out some issues with my nascent theorizing. He correctly remarks that it attempts to bridge the gap between the ET hypothesis and the so-called Psycho-Social hypothesis of UFOs.<br> MJ is actually an investigator for MUFON in Canada and he discussed the value in talking to witnesses and the frustration he has with the organization, particularly the paperwork, which he sees as restrictive. We also delved into the idea that UFO study is philosophically different than other paranormal pursuits such as cryptozoology and ghost hunting in that the entities behind it (if there indeed are any) are in a different category. As he put it, “Aliens can take over the world, Bigfoot and ghosts cannot.”<br>
