Summary: <br> In Episode 081, Trev and AJ chat about AJ's <a href="http://www.teachingyoutofish.com/">budding computer consultation startup</a>, and Trev's first face-to-face encounter with M.I.T.T. — and (spoiler alert) the rabbit hole goes kinda deep. Then they sit down with Mad Men actor <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1496294/">Darren Pettie</a> for the second part of their chat about his unlikely journey to Hollywood, and how he keeps on keeping on. Total running time: 51:05.<br>
