Summary: This week’s episode was recorded live at <a href="http://www.jccmanhattan.org/">JCC Manhattan</a>. Our first Jewish guest is Canadian transplant and longtime "This American Life" contributor Jonathan Goldstein, who now hosts the podcast <a href="https://gimletmedia.com/heavyweight/">Heavyweight</a>. He tells us about mining his personal life for stories to tell on his show and gives us a definitive (if very Canadian) answer on Montreal bagels vs. New York bagels. Our Gentile of the Week is Catholic <em>New York Times</em> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/ross-douthat">columnist</a> Ross Douthat, who tells us about being a conservative voice writing for a largely liberal audience, why so many voters on the Christian right supported Trump despite mounting evidence of his moral failings, and why conservatives love fantasy novels like <em>Lord of the Rings</em>. Our second Jewish guest is <a href="http://www.jenspyra.com/">Jen Spyra</a>, comedian and writer on <em>The Late Show with Stephen Colbert</em>. She tells us about her <em>Late Show</em> audition, the challenges of writing jokes during a Trump administration, and when she first realized she was funny. <br><a href="http://bit.ly/UnorthodoxPodcast">Sign up</a> for our weekly newsletter to get new episodes and more. Email us with comments, questions and kvetches at <a href="mailto:Unorthodox@tabletmag.com">Unorthodox@tabletmag.com</a>—we'll share our favorite notes on air. <br>This episode is dedicated to the memory of J.J. the dog.<br><br>Special thanks to our live band, the Jewbadourians: Jim Knable, Sunny Knable, and Claudia Mogel.<br><br>Music Credits: <br><br>“Unorthodox Theme Song” by Golem<br> “Swing Gitane” by The Underscore Orkestra <br>“Jonathan Goldstein” by The Jewbadourians<br>“If Your Dad Doesn’t Have A Beard, You’ve Got Two Mums” by The Beards<br>“Ross Douthat” by The Jewbadourians<br>“Bad Religion” by Frank Ocean<br>“Jen Spyra” by The Jewbadourians<br>“LA Jews” by The Jewbadourians
