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Summary: After a nearly three decade stint at the CIA from 1963 to 1990, McGovern went on to become a fierce critic of the way intelligence was being used by the U.S. government, particularly the Bush administration in the run up to the war in Iraq in 2003. A wide range of topics are covered in the episode, including what's behind the tense relations between the United States and Russia.