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Summary: Paranormal Expert Elizabeth Saint joins me to talk about her show Ghosts of Sheperdstown & her experiences with investigating the paranormal, And I also finally catch up with ESPN host Ryen Russillo from Russillo & Kanell show & get him to answer some questions as only Ryen would.