Summary: <br> <p>Christian Philosopher Michael Murray wrote a book in 2008 making a defence of God in the face of millennia of animal suffering. He presents his arguments to atheist Phil Harper (aka Skydivephil).</p><br> <p>They also discuss the contentious issue of whether animals experience pain differently to humans, after William Lane Craig ignited a debate on the subject after quoting Michael Murray's work in a debate.</p> <br> <p>MP3 of this show <a href="http://media.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/6821081e-913a-4789-ae1e-00b10730ad17.mp3">http://media.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/6821081e-913a-4789-ae1e-00b10730ad17.mp3</a></p><br> <p>For Michael Murray's response on William Lane Craig's blog <a href="http://www.premierchristianradio.com/unbelievable">http://www.reasonablefaith.org/animal-pain-re-visited</a></p><br> <p>For Michael Murray's book Nature Red in Tooth and Claw <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/0199596328">http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/0199596328></a></p><br> <p>For "Skydivephil's "animal suffering" videos on YouTube <a href="http://youtu.be/mLSwRcvX72M">http://youtu.be/mLSwRcvX72M</a> & <a href="http://youtu.be/sKuEbbDi-tQ">http://youtu.be/sKuEbbDi-tQ</a></p><br> <p>For more faith debates visit <a href="http://www.premierchristianradio.com/unbelievable">www.premierchristianradio.com/unbelievable</a></p><br> <p>Join the conversation: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/unbelievablejb">Facebook</a> and <a href="http://www.twitter.com/unbelievablejb">Twitter</a></p><br> <p>Get the MP3 podcast of Unbelievable? <a href="http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx">http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx</a> or Via <a href="http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=267142101">Itunes</a></p>
