![Commentary Magazine Podcast show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/068/406/small/express-commentary.jpg)
Summary: The first of this week's COMMENTARY podcasts features our take on the VP debate--impressive performance chops by Mike Pence masking a series of bald-faced lies, indicating the extent to which Donald Trump has altered our politics, and a deeply annoying Tim Kaine who couldn't even do interrupting well. Give a listen to me, Abe Greenwald, and Noah Rothman as we chatter our way through 32 minutes.